Science Behind Suicide Attacks is Lacking.
Suicide Attacks:
An elite unit of the Tamil tigers, the Black tigers, was responsible for carrying out suicide attacks. LTTE killed 60,000 lives.
Suicide bombers;
May 21, 1991, Rajiv Gandhi killed by a Tamil tiger. As well, a1996 suicide bomb attack that killed100 at Colombo Central Bank.
“Their Black Tiger unit have committed between 76 and 168 (estimates vary) suicide bombings since 1987, using more than 240 attackers. Their victims included former Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi (assassinated by Thenmuli Rajaratnam), many prominent Lankan leaders (among them the late PM Ranasinghe Premadasa), Colombo's Central Bank, and even warships.” (Wiki Answers) http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_was_the_first_suicide_bomber
The Earliest Suicide Bombings:
The Knights Templar killed themselves in a bombing of their own ship 140 of themselves and ten times as many of their Muslim enemies, during the Crusades.
I realize that this is a “war” so doesn’t count as killing “innocent or non-combatants”, nonetheless its good information to have.
“Another early example of suicide bombing occurred during the Belgian Revolution, when the Dutch Lieutenant Jan van Speijk detonated his own ship in the harbour of Antwerp to prevent being captured by the Belgians.”
Here, it doesn’t say how many were killed on his ship, or from his enemy. Or as well, if innocents were killed, which I’m thinking was quite possible.
Suicide bombers are different from suspicious suicide-murder bomb which is a plot which likely uses someone as a human bomb; this has also happened in Iraq. This throws suspicion on the assumption that all the suicide attacks or bombers are Muslims who wanted to volunteer to kill themselves to kill others. I can’t believe any stats which are not able to do the impossible, prove that they were gathered and recorded in a controlled environment when there are no witnesses to the fact or that reports are accurate; verifiable proof of what is said by the people reporting these incidents. Witness testimony can be false, either, deliberately or because the witnesses don’t know what really happened only what they think happened based on their limited knowledge of what they saw and how they interpreted what they saw.
No controlled environment, etc.
In this regard, for instance, a young Saudi Arabian national filmed from his sickbed, with his nose and some of his face and body disfigured or burned, spoke on television, about how he had volunteered for Jihad in Iraq; he met people, who were not Arabs, according to him, or speaking a foreign language, who took him somewhere, and they tied a bomb to him. He never saw their faces. Then, he saw another man also strapped with a bomb that later blew up. He said he ran and was saved because the bomb he was wearing didn’t detonate. (It seems his injuries occurred when the first bomber blew up). He was captured and later sent to his home country, where the police or military police questioned him, etc. They also put him into a rehabilitation program as far as I can guess. They allowed him to speak for the television report.
Not Scientific:
To be scientific, the analysts of statistics must be able to prove that stats were collected scientifically and fairly, not altered in any way, that the claims are all true, etc. Statistics for suicide bombers in Iraq can’t guarantee that this has taken place, so I don’t accept that all of the suicide bombers were real suicide bombers, and not actually part of a plot to discredit Muslims who want to defend their country, or who volunteer for “defensive jihad” of their own country, or even just their own family. This lack of credibility also applies to 911. There is so much suspicion around 911, that I can’t blame all the Muslims, among the terrorists, in the airplanes for every single person killed. There is still doubt about one airplane, for example, being remote controlled. These doubts will probably never go away because 911 can’t be proven to be a completely Muslim operation, 100%; others share the real responsibility for 911. About three thousand people died on 911, I can’t put all the blame for that on Muslims, as a thinking human being and one with a conscience.
“Modern suicide bombing as a political tool can be traced back to the assisination of Czar Alexander II of Russia in 1881….The Czar was killed by the Pole Ignacy Hryniewiecki (1856-1881), who died while intentionally exploding the bomb during the attack.”
Wikipedia also has, “The first modern suicide bombing occurred in Iran in 1980 when 13-year old Hossein Fahmideh detonated himself as he ran up to an Iraqi tank at a key point in a battle of the Iran-Iraq War. Lebanon, during its civil war, saw a modern suicide bombing: the Islamic Dawa Party's car bombing of the Iraqi embassy in Beirut, in December 1981. Hezbollah's bombing of the U.S. embassy in April 1983 and attack on United States Marine and French barracks in October 1983 brought suicide bombings international attention. Other parties to the civil war were quick to adopt the tactic, and by 1999 factions such as Hezbollah, the Amal Movement, the Ba'ath Party, and the Syrian Social Nationalist Party had carried out around 50 suicide bombings between them. (The latter of these groups sent the first female suicide bomber in 1986. Female combatants have existed throughout human history and in many different societies, so it is possible that females who engage in suicidal attacks are not new.) Hezbollah was the only one to attack overseas, bombing the Israeli embassy (and possibly the Argentine-Israeli Mutual Association building) in Buenos Aires; as its military and political power have grown, it has since abandoned the tactic.” Here, we see that doubt can exist about who actually blew up what; i.e. if it wasn’t Hezbollah who blew up Argentine-Israeli target, then who did?
The thing to note here is that Muslims who are believers don’t kill themselves, nor are they permitted to kill themselves by the Qur’an, or any saying of the Prophet Muhammad. Therefore, I can’t say that these people are Muslims, they died non-Muslims. Did some claim to be making Jihad, yes.
Some of these groups, also, are not Muslims, if judged according to their beliefs; therefore, again, not Muslim.
The Bath party are not an Islamic party, they believe in Pan Arabism and socialism, therefore they are not Muslim according to Islamic beliefs; if someone judges by other than the Qur’an or Sunna, that person is not a Muslim. In this regard, all people who judge by other than Qur’an and Sunna are not Muslims, such as the late Moammar Ghaddafi.
“By their fruits ye shall know them” (the Bible)
“In Northern Ireland, in the early 1990s, as part of the Provisional IRA campaign 1969-1997, the IRA used the tactic it called the the "proxy bomb" -a sort of involuntary suicide bomb, where a victim was kidnapped and forced to drive a car bomb into its target. In one infamous operation in Derry in 1990, the PIRA chained a Catholic civilian to a car laden with explosives, held his family hostage and forced him to drive to a British Army checkpoint as a "human bomb" where the bomb exploded, killing himself and five soldiers. This practice was stopped due to the revulsion its caused among the Irish nationalist community.” (Wiki Answers)
If we analyze this closer, It’s true that the Catholic who was used as a bomb, didn’t want to do it, but nonetheless, he did it. He drove himself, so that constitutes some responsibility for his actions; he wanted to save his family, so killed himself and others. That’s still wrong, even though he was forced to wear the bomb; he couldn’t be forced to drive, though. He made a choice between his family and not doing it. He chose to kill other people to save his own family. Of course the IRA has full responsibility for their actions, anyway.
“The LTTE began its armed conflict against the Sri Lankan government in 1983 and utilizes a guerrilla strategy that often includes acts of terrorism. With an army of several thousand combatants, until recently the LTTE controlled most of the northern and eastern coastal areas of Sri Lanka. Over the past 20 years, the LTTE has conducted approximately 200 suicide bombings resulting in the deaths of hundreds of victims, and has carried out numerous political assassinations, including the May 1991 assassination of former Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi; the 1993 assassination of the President of Sri Lanka, Ranasinghe Premadasa; the July 1999 assassination of Neelan Thiruchelvam, a member of the Sri Lankan parliament; the June 2000 assassination of C.V. Goonaratne, the Sri Lankan Industry Minister; the August 2006 assassination of the Sri Lankan government’s peace secretariat, Ketheshwaran Loganathan; the January 2008 assassination of Sri Lankan Minister for Nation Building D.M. Dassanayake; and the April 2008 assassination of Sri Lankan Highways Minister Jeyaraj Fernandopulle. In 2009, Sri Lankan government forces defeated the LTTE and reestablished control of the country. Notwithstanding its current exile status, the LTTE remains an active terrorist organization.” (The Federal Bureau of Investigation)
My Answer:
It is neither correct nor fair to call any place, “the Mecca of suicide bombers” whether it is the city of Mecca, or another city or place. Statistics on suicide bombings or other bombings are not scientific; stats do not take into consideration that some people may have been innocently accused of terrorism or a suicide mission. But in particular, the number of Meccans or Saudi Arabians who have done suicide missions is minimal, compared to the number of others who have done suicide missions, whether non-Muslims, or Muslims.
We are told that:
More than 240 attackers in 1996 were from the Tamil Tigers.
This is a large number compared to the 19 or so individuals from Saudi Arabia, who are blamed for the 911 campaign against the Americans. They claimed to be doing God’s work, according to all the media reports; but there is also suspicion that they didn’t do this plot or ‘succeed’ on their own. The carnage was around 3,000 dead, we’re told.
Saudi Arabia itself is dealing with its own terrorist problem. There have been attacks in Riyadh and Medina the past decade.
The Lockerby plane crash was also by two Libyan extremists hired by their government, although Ghaddafi had denied that any Libyans were behind it. There have been kidnappings and killing by Libyans who worked for the former leader, even in the British capital. An old shopkeeper was killed in Britain, years ago. But these are ‘assassinations’ and don’t constitute any kind of suicide mission nor extremist Muslim acts.
Another spurious case was a Palestinian truck driver, who claimed in his testimony that he was innocent. He refused to admit that he had anything to do with a bomb attack using his truck (actually the truck was owned by a Jewish man and driven by the defendant). Nonetheless, ‘evidence’ and the court found him guilty - the man was convicted of terrorism and imprisoned. I don’t suggest here that the owner of the truck had anything to do with the bombing either, but only suggest that New York, or places with a Jewish population seem to be more at risk of terrorism; we need to ask ourselves why? Is it because there was no real motive for the Palestinian - if he was innocent of a criminal past; he had never done such a thing before, nor would have had any real motive looking at past history – that someone wanted to make it appear that he had a motive; just because New York has a large Jewish population and he is an Arab or Muslim. He drove the truck to where he was told; that was the whole story; the evidence was all circumstantial. (How many people died, and other victims were there?)
As for the suicide bombings, in Palestine, or Iraq, one could argue that these are politically motivated, more than religious Muslim attacks. Also, they constitute a threat to either a foreign occupier, or enemy combatants, in the case of Iraq. In Palestine, often innocent people are killed in markets or civilian areas, but this is also to be understood in the context of the wider Israeli Palestinian conflict, and the intifada (Palestinian Uprising). Yes, the resulting carnage and method are the same as other suicide attacks, but also are seen by the perpetrators as a “forced hand”; they would not do so if they didn’t believe they have to in order to remove the occupiers from their land; their motive is of course the daily killings, massacres, evictions, harassment and so on of their own people, families or relatives. This is less a ‘jihad’ and more a guerilla war. Definitely, Muslims do not condone the acts of suicide attackers.
In ancient times, the Knights Templar (read above) killed themselves in suicide bombing of their own ship; totaling 140 members.
Importantly, the attacks in Riyadh and Medina were committed by non-Saudi citizens, e.g. extremist "takfiri" Egyptian citizens. They believe that the Saudi government should be toppled because of their incompetence and friendship with America. They are well-known to propagate unislamic extremism against other Muslims and all un-islamic governments, or governments they deem un-islamic including in Muslim-majority countries around the globe.
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