This will never happen again!

PARODY -- Who Won, Who’s Next, You Decide?

1 - Once upon a time, in the ghraib... if books could speak.

I’m a Book, Revelation, you cannot deny

If you read (pron. is "red") my verses you would surely cry.

If you hide the truth you will be led astray,

You will then regret your birth and choice, Judgment Day.

***

I’m the bible I’m a book, like you I’m written well,

Not by God but with help from Him, it’s just as swell,

If you know the Lord like me, then you will walk in light,

If you don’t, better believe me, then it’s Hell; it serves you right.


2 - Muslim vs Evangelical Christian

Your rap is nonsense, you’re a moron; you can’t even read

- (Like your brother David Wood) -

I think you were, you are, you’re taking speed.


But you’ll probably never get it, gonna regret it, cause your slow

Qur’an is truth and light and right and never wrong,

***

I’ll tell you what I know about Muhammad and Buraq

How did he go to heaven on a horse with wings, that’s crock?

No, the book isn’t right, its wrong, I have to mock.


Get to the real point cause I’m late for a discussion,

Called “Jesus in the Quran, Muhammad in the Bible".

My notes from the last UN session, "rights of modern women" will impress them.



3 - Muslim vs EDL - extreme debate...

Do you know why Jesus died?

- To forgive your sins -

God needs a sacrifice.

***

Don’t be daft, your EDL, your on a road to Hell (not Paradise)

you need a ticket to heaven, cause you’re weak,

You probably can’t even spell.


I on the other hand know what’s good for man and woman,

Don’t get me started on the role of women (in society);

It’s gonna be a long wait, better get your head on straight.

(Unfortunately for the Muslim, it appears he doesn't know the rights Islam gave to women, lol.)



4 - Spencer vs Nadir Ahmed (this is sad_)

Listening to Yusuf Islam, you think your smart, you’ve got it figured out

Your mother couldn’t love you, your own people are sick and dying,

If Islam’s so great, get the brothers and go stop people crying.


You can’t even find shoes to fit you wear sandals everywhere,

A nightshirt for breakfast, lunch and dinner is formal wear.

***

You people always judge the book by its cover, not the book,

You pretend to be smart, but it's not working out, you're racist as well.


Chapter 9 verse 29 gives you human rights,

You’d rather pay taxes, an arm and a leg, to stay six months in London

- and another six in Israel –



5 - Robert Morey vs a respected brother_ who leaves, after hearing the insults about the respected brother, S. Ali. Too bad, he could have won the debate, it isn't the end of the world, that comes much later...



I’m gonna finish this quick, Shabir Ali, I know about his ****

Our preachers are kinda funny and cool; they learned debate (from Deedat)

And they’re sometimes cruel, even accurate


If you don’t like freedom of speech, then go back to your desert cave,

Terrorists and Mullas, you should be ashamed;

Jesus was a man of peace, he loved to break bread,

Your prophet used a sword, he didn’t own a hammer, now he’s dead.


Who Won, Who’s Next, You Decide?

Ch: 9, V:6 [the Quran]

@Jane Dughatir

Shaun Kwong 1 week ago

Would you rather follow a prophet who is dead or one who is still alive? Muhammad or Jesus? One who would be judged or one who is the Judge? I understand Muhammad himself is waiting for Judgment Day of Jesus to be judged. According to Islam, big sins are not ok, small sins are ok. So how will Muhammad fair on Judgment Day? I also understand the Qu'ran said only Jesus is Holy. So, would you rather follow someone who is sinful of someone who is Holy?

Jane Dughatir 1 second ago

I don't believe you do understand. Also, I don't say that Jesus isn't alive, but how are you following him, exactly? Are you his constant shadow? - Because Muslims follow the teachings of the Prophets, and you are not? You say, follow a Prophet who is alive not one who is dead, so how are you following Jesus, isn't it by following his teachings? Therefore, he doesn't have to be alive for you to follow him, understand?

Understanding the Prophet (SAWS)

“Goodness (rightness) is good morality; and sin (misdeed) is what embarrasses you (i.e. you are not comfortable within yourself) and you hate it to be known by others” (Muslim, 15/2553)

The question today - can we really judge people by everything that they or others did in the past? When ancient peoples did things, some of the things they might have been ashamed of, and others they were not ashamed of; should we as people coming much later, with a very different culture and ideas judge those former peoples according to our modern beliefs or standards? I don’t believe we should.

Am I saying this to defend some of the former people’s actions? Perhaps; I prefer to think we can look at ancient cultures and societies without judging them. For what is it about their cultures that we dislike, or disapprove of that is necessary to debate today?

Slavery is all but gone and we can hope the final remnants of slavery will be eradicated but who knows? Women’s rights are not yet equal across the nations nor even practiced all across the board in any modern nation. We can see there are strata where women are very blessed or free, vs. others where they are very poor, or degraded. There is a “glass ceiling” even in corporate boardrooms, or corporations today, which women have not always been able to break through. It takes a very special, intelligent or strong woman to do so. The rest are not able to break through that invisible, unspoken barrier which favors men. The most poverty-stricken people in America are elderly women. It’s the same all over the world.

Everyone accepts the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; no one disputes the rights of children or the rights of women or minorities. All nations agree to the broad categories of human rights; women, children, minorities, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, freedom from torture, etc.

I mention the above saying of Muhammad, pbuh, to show that there was a concept of “morality” in ancient Arabia. Of course, it evolved once Islam was introduced into the culture and it changed the religion, culture, cultural norms, and effectively created new ideals and examined cultural practices, etc. which were wrong, eliminated or corrected many of the cultural and religious practices, as well explaining what was “sinful” versus what was “virtuous”. Ethics and morals were important to earlier peoples as they are important to societies now.

“Fear Allah wherever you are, follow a bad deed with a good deed as it erases it, and deal with people with high ethics”. (Tirmithi – 1987 & Ahmed 5/153)

Some of the ideals which were noble, such as chivalry, bravery, honesty, are still ideals which people today agree are positive. Other ideals (or ideas), such as male chauvinism, were fought or became unacceptable. People learned that men and women are equal and share the same basic humanity and rights.

“Oh people, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under God’s trust and with His permission. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers”.

- From Muhammad’s farewell sermon

It was the Prophet’s youngest wife, Aisha, who gave Muslims then and all to follow, the important examples of what was required of Muslim men, regards their wives, families, and society.

Muhammad taught, “Women are the twin halves of men”.

Michael Hart, a writer defended his choice of Muhammad, to lead the list of the top 100 in history, “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels” (From the book, “The 100, A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History”)

We can say here that, perhaps Mr. Hart didn’t think Muhammad was the most pious person, and preferred Jesus to Muhammad, but he ranked Jesus second. Or we could speculate that maybe there were others on the list, who though not ranked first, were more self-sacrificing (I am saying this, only to be partial, though I cannot say that I am not really partial about Muhammad, pbuh, as he is the most near to perfection of all Allah’s creatures, nonetheless, I ask others to think about their choice of the most “perfect” human and the reasons they would pick that person.)

Christians will say Jesus was better than Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allah unto both of the holy Messengers of God, but I do not distinguish between them or any of the Prophets, for Allah told us, they are “brothers”. Islam speaks about five strong prophets, Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allah unto all of them. There were many others we don’t know by name, and others mentioned by name in the Quran as well as some pious individuals or Saints, including the Mother of Jesus, Maryam (Mary mother of Christ (the Messiah)), may Allah be pleased with her.

The best person, therefore is not only someone who Allah had spoken to, or one who Allah had created with His own hands, or one who he had given the power to heal the blind and lepers or to raise the dead, nor one who was “his special friend”, as Abraham, nor one who He forgave all his sins, Muhammad, or gave him a miracle that would be for all humanity, or the final message, peace and blessings be unto them.

We don’t distinguish between the prophets, and there is no need. Allah sent these Prophets and Messengers to guide people in different times and different places. Therefore, they all were chosen slaves of Allah and the most obedient, praiseworthy and blessed of all the people.

In a narration about the ascension of Muhammad into heaven, Moses says that he had killed a person and send Muhammad to another; Jesus, merely tells Muhammad to go to another of the Prophets of God, Noah says, he had asked Allah something for which he had no right, and so on. We see from many of the stories or narrations that the Prophets of Allah were human beings whom Allah favored from his creation. He says about human fallibility, that if humans did not sin He would have created another creation that would sin, so that they would seek His forgiveness, because Allah, Most High, likes to hear His slaves pleading with Him, and He likes to forgive sins. Allah, azawajal, did not create men to be perfect, but to seek His forgiveness.

People often misunderstand religion. It is the Christians who are most close to the Muslims in their beliefs, though they raised Jesus to a status above his human status, when they said he is the son of Allah. Despite this invention, they believe in the need for repentance. The idea of repentance, and that God would forgive our sins is central to both Christianity and Islam; in Islam the most important belief or pillar of faith being the Oneness of God, and the worship of One God. This is why polytheism or associating others with Allah is called the greatest sin (Shirk al Kabir). Shirk, or joining partners with Allah is the only sin which Allah will not forgive, for which people remain forever in Hell. If it was not for that, they would all be Muslims. The Jews believe that they are “the Children of God” or His “chosen people” a concept foreign both to Islam and Christianity. It is in fact a racist idea which permits many heinous crimes in the name of their religion (in reality they kill and occupy for “Zionism” and Zion.)

Therefore, we do not say that the Prophets were perfectly sinless, but we believe that Allah guided them to the best forms of worship, the best supplications and prayers, the best ideals, and the best moral code and superior moral conduct. As a result of their good deeds and prayers, Allah forgave the Prophets their mistakes. It is famously recorded that Prophet Muhammad used to seek Allah’s forgiveness 70 times a day.

Muhammad, pbuh, was sent first and foremost to his own people, the ancient Arabs. But because Islam rooted out racism and enjoined many more of the modern ideals we take for granted, it is rightly called a universal religion.

Therefore, you will hear Muslims say that Islam is a religion for all time and place. (It is generally understood as such.) Where I might differ with some Muslims is that Islam is certainly compatible with today’s modern ideals. Some Muslims believe that Islam must “reform”; they don’t understand that Islam already is capable of meeting the challenges of social reform without the religion needing reform or improvement.

Sometimes what people will complain about are not cultural or religious ideals which need fixing, but moral values which they believe are now outdated. If we listen to such people, we would accept many evils in the name of freedom or modernity.

Lastly, the name Muhammad means in Arabic, “the person who is highly, frequently and repeatedly praised for his good deeds. Therefore, he is a praiseworthy person.”(P. 3, Muhammad, Who Is He? A pocket guide, produced by Discover Islam Center, 2012)

The fact that one is a praiseworthy person, or even a Prophet and Messenger of Allah, doesn’t affect his status as a human being, and this means that as other people he goes through trials, is subject to worries and misgivings, stumbles and falls, even. It is true that Prophet Moses had in his ignorance, killed a man, and Prophet Yunus (Jonah) had sought to run away from his Prophetic mission despairing of the peoples’ conversion to his religion, Islam. (Islam is the universal religion and was the religion of all the previous prophets and messengers of God.) It is also true that the Prophets, like all people, used to ask for forgiveness of Allah. They did not believe themselves free from error, responsibilities or worry. In fact, they prayed often, repented often, performed more good deeds seeking Allah’s pleasure, to show their grateful attitude to Allah for the many blessings which He bestowed upon them. They also relied on Allah to help them perform the task He set out for them to do; preaching the Oneness of God, Allah, and establishing a community of believers, who would then call others to Islam.

Therefore, we believe that Islam is the universal religion, and that all the Prophets or Messengers of Allah called to the worship of Allah.

Statements about Muhammad, pbuh:

“Whoever saw him unexpectedly would admire and revere him. And whoever socialized or associated with him familiarly, loved him. He was gentle by nature. He was neither coarse nor disdainful of anyone.”(P. 15, Ibid).

He told his friends, “I am a guarantor for a house at the outskirt of the Paradise for those who quit arguing even if they were right and I am a guarantor for a house in the middle of Paradise for those who quit lying even if they were kidding and I am a guarantor for a house in the highest part in the Paradise for those who behave with good manners.” (Sahih Abu Dawood)

Muhammad, pbuh, never found fault or overpraised others, nor got angry for his own sake. He did not speak unnecessarily, nor accept (an) other’s(s’) lauding his praises. He was unfailingly cheerful. But if he was angry when Allah’s law was violated, then his face would express strong emotion and displeasure. (Pp. 14-15, Muhammad, Who Is He?, 2012.)

“Muhammad never got angry for his own sake” (P. 15, Ibid)

Concluding remarks:

As it is not possible for any person to remove himself or disassociate himself from his own time, or the age into which he was born, nor his place; just as the bronze age man could not have imagined electricity, nor invented glass nor filaments for lights, it is not probable that men of Muhammad’s time would have changed everything around them; no more than what they were capable in a quarter of a century, nor that the next generation of Muslims which followed or generations for the next few centuries could have known or understood more than the ethical questions which Islam confronted. Many other social norms; ‘pithy’ preferences, which may or may not be regarded as ‘backwards’, inhumane, or injustice today, were not all questioned (neither eradicated nor once and for all banned) in the early Islamic Empire; nor would those people be responsible for our misguidance, just we are not responsible for the misguidance of theirs. Only Allah is the judge, and that is what all people can at least agree on, who believe in God and fear Him. It is enough to say that the Muslims have definitely evolved. Islam did that. Islam teaches, “There is neither harm nor reciprocating harm” a general ethos, which can be applied to any situation; any people can use it, it is workable anywhere.

It is recorded, that Aisha (RA) once said, “If alcohol had been banned (forthwith) the Arabs in Muhammad’s time would not have become Muslims” (although I am paraphrasing) In fact, during one of the earlier reigning Russian Czar’s time, he refused Islam on the very same pretext. In fact, it was not only a pretext, he must have felt it impossible to give up the freedom to drink alcohol, because that was one of their (Russians) lives’ greatest pleasures (or an addiction); then the Czar accepted Christianity, and since then, the religion even today, in some of the former Russian Empire has been one form or other of Christianity. Of course Islam also invaded (they tried to peacefully preach Islam and were challenged) later and took root; in the Bikhar region (e.g. Uzbekistan) also Chechnya, the Ukraine, etc.

I quote Yusuf Estes who said, “…not worshipping the Prophets, not worshipping the Messengers, putting them in a higher (sic) status saying only good about them.” Or what is often said, we say, not exaggerating their status beyond their human capacity for good and evil. I ask, “Who doesn’t sin?” The bible says, Jesus said, “He who has not sinned, shall cast the first stone”. Everyone has sinned, including the Holy messengers of Allah. We say they are holy, meaning they were the most holy of humans, but they were not perfect. The Catholics call their priests “holy”, too. It means that they think they are better than everyone else, not that they are perfect. It means that they believe there is a way to God through those people. Maybe, they can forgive us? That’s what the Catholics believe about their priests, that they can forgive them their sins. On the other hand, in Islam people go directly to God; Muslims pray for forgiveness, which also, all others do, who believe in God, but Muslims are sure that they never associate others with God, such as another human being. There is no priest class in Islam; no one can forgive sins for us; only God can forgive us. Forgiveness is easier than one might think, just pray sincerely to be forgiven and never do the sin again; that’s called “repentance” and it’s the only way to get forgiveness. God already knows what you did...you don’t have to tell another living soul, or breath a word of your sin, because that is not going to make you feel any better, especially if you believe that God won’t forgive you. You have to believe that God is the forgiver of sin, the Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Allah said, “I am what my slave thinks I am”, which means, if you believe Allah is forgiving, He will be. If you think Allah is generous, He will be. Etc.

(Where I have erred it is due to my own weakness or fault, and where I have stated the correct interpretations or beliefs, it is due to Allah. I ask Him for guidance.)

Reply to Moral Atheist – Part One

Specifically, the verse, and the example which Professor Kroner chose is a description in the Qur’an of the fact that this universe had its beginnings in one single entity.” P.34-35, This is the Truth, 1999.

“Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together [raqtan], before We clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing…” [Quran 21:30]

; just another interesting quote, for MoralAtheist @MoralAtheist; I already answered some of his/her questions. I can debate anybody, no problem, God willing. (It never ends, does it?)

You think everything is particles?

What about thoughts?

We are responsible even for our thoughts as well as our actions.

Are our actions particles?

I’m no biological chemist – one might ask, maybe our actions are just the result of chemical reactions and movements, which we don’t really have any control over: but who wants to believe something like that?

Then life is just, “meaningless” and our actions are just physical and chemical results of our biological existence, with nothing to do with an important reality, or greater plan; it’s not an adequate explanation, I think, for most people. (Of course, you might argue that life is about "the here and now", "doing good for the sake of doing good", and having a fun time, etc. etc.)

Besides, science can’t rule God out - that if we have all these chemical and physical “symptoms” that “maybe” “kind of” prove that we actually exist, and are not just thoughts or something happening in someone’s mind, or like will o’ the wisps, or “cells” that exist for no real purpose, or like residual waste in space, which atheists might believe is the only reality, and there is nothing greater or beyond this Universe, or beyond, beyond the Universe, and further than that, or they believe that everything is going to end in nothing, just because the entire cosmos are moving towards a “spot” (wonder if it’s a giant black hole?) which is pulling everything we know and don’t know into unknown blackness; and what else?? To disappear? And what happens when everything “disappears”?

Yes, what happens when everything “disappears”?

I could imagine different “possibilities” on and on, but most seem like ‘chimeras’, or half truths, and not anything like significant or real “probabilities”. Half of an answer isn’t enough; people usually want the whole answer. But that is easier in Mathematics, or the physical sciences, and less easy in “spiritual” matters.(The mention of the universe moving in a direction towards "something" is in the Qur'an, too, which is why I bring it up; later I can show proof of this, but not today...)

The thing is, you can take the Muslim out of Islam, but you can’t take Islam out of the Muslim.

You can take the believer out of faith (either he apostatizes because of doubts, or weakness, etc, like the man who gave a fly to a warlord, (or some self-proclaimed fake ‘god’ of men, who insisted that everyone who passes his road, must make a sacrifice to his idol), which he thought was too insignificant to merit a thought, but which landed him in Hell. You can force a statement out of her/him that is not really sincere (so it looks like s/he is not a believer, but really s/he is.) Allah looks at what is in the hearts, and He does not punish for weakness or forgetfulness, or compulsion (when one is forced), but He punishes for intentional words, or actions, and thoughts, or beliefs which reveal real disbelief.

The above story is not from the Qur’an (entirely)  but it is mentioned in one verse, I think, but the whole story, is I believe an old story from people of former times (before Muhammad’s time, I mean), and is kind of a cautionary tale. One interesting thing about some of the earlier peoples is that God gave them books, and sometimes many prophets were sent to them, so whether or not God punished one person for sacrificing a mere fly or not, it doesn’t mean that God was unjust to that person (because God always knows the intentions and the hearts). Just as God forbade the Jews from so many kinds of meat, because they insisted on rebellion at every turn, and actually made things forbidden with their own tongues, so Allah executed the Jews’ own “man-made” laws on them (He forced them to comply with their own made up list of “forbidden” things, by His making those things “forbidden” (for them only). Muslims have a much shorter list of forbidden foods, or things which are forbidden, (blood,(the one that flows out of the animal at the time of slaughtering, or at the time of “sacrifice”)swine, dead meat, (any food that is rotten, or meat which hasn’t been slaughtered according to Islamic rites, or animals which have died due to an accident ), meat sacrificed at an alter to an idol, gambling, divination with arrows, anything which has pig products in it, and alcoholic beverages, or anything which causes intoxication or illegal drugs, which cause hallucinations or are otherwise forbidden, are included in the “haram” or “forbidden”)

But you can’t take faith out of the believer.

You can’t make people disbelieve. The proof is that although many people (such as the Muslims in Myanmar? (revising; Burma?) who are being slaughtered) would find life a lot easier sometimes, if they just recant, but the fact is, in their hearts they still believe, and no one can take belief out of the heart, except Allah. And Allah, because He is just, doesn’t take faith out of people’s hearts; it is people who want to forget Allah. Allah never forgets His creatures, until they forget Him and when they insist on disbelief; He gives them time to rethink, and maybe return to Him, because Allah loves a slave of His, who returns to Him or repents. But eventually, it will be too late, for the ones who always “lag” and “argue” and “refuse” - sometimes just because they like their lives and don’t want to think about an Afterlife, or be responsible for their actions. And everyone has an appointed time, which is the time of death. Then, everyone will definitely know the reality, whether they “believed” or not. Muslims who take their religion lightly and are not heedful of Allah’s prohibitions also are included in those people who don’t want to think about the Afterlife and individual responsibility (for their actions, words, and beliefs). Some of these are sinners or others have gone astray; they may end up in Hell, either temporarily or permanently-- in the case of wrong beliefs due to a stubborn attitude and refusal to follow the Truth, they may be non-believers. (Allah knows best, in any case, I ask Allah to forgive me for my weakness and if I ever make a mistake In my explanations or if my understanding is lacking, due to some short -fall on my part, not out of deliberate wrongdoing or to mislead)

In Islam we know that we are responsible for our actions, thoughts, intentions.

Those are ‘ours’ just as Allah tells us that our evil deeds are ‘ours.’ But what good we have is from Him. We should not be arrogant, therefore, but grateful slaves. That being said, I do believe in a reward for good doers because God has promised His faithful rewards for their good actions and/or sincere intentions. (Muslims should refer back to the Qur’an for proofs of their statements, at all times, and whenever its likely to help in understanding the religion; here however, I am paraphrasing only; but the meaning is correct)

You might say, our emotions of happiness or grief, anger, etc and belief in God are due to chemical reactions, but that doesn’t mean that life is not more, and that there is nothing more after this temporary life. (That’s what Mel Gibson thought in his role as a grieving ex-Minister; I forgot the title of the movie. Anyway, later, after he and his brother thwart an alien invasion because of his wife’s dying words, “swing away”, which he thought was just gibberish due to her life force going away, and synapses sending weird messages to her brain, or whatever happens when one has thoughts, or when one is dying; this helped him renew his belief in a ‘higher power’. Yes, it’s only a movie. But often writers and people who make films, such as the directors, have their own vision, which they apply to their work or art. They, like everybody else, are looking for an explanation, or to question, or seek some kind of “probable cause” or are pondering at least the “probabilities”.

Life is much more amazing and complex than what either biological chemistry or a two hour movie can do to either “explain away” people’s faith, or even the opposite, “prove” that faith is not just hoping that there’s a God or an afterlife, or ‘something more’, after we die. It’s the similar case, with the discovery of a “God spot” in the brain, which some people think is evidence that faith in God is “biologically” explainable (or dismissible); again, God could have put the God spot there, as one religious cleric (a Christian) said, in an article about the discovery (I must try to find a link or reference for that, shortly (I hope)).

Atheists and others always insist that the ‘believers’ should prove to them there is a God, but they can’t at the same time prove that there isn’t a God. So it is everyone’s “choice” and “freedom” to believe what they want; I don’t think anyone has the right to insist on others relinquishing their faith or unbelief, either, without proof or at least some “reasonable uncertainty” (either way).

That being said, Muslims do believe that there is definite proof In the Qur’an that God revealed the Qur’an and that He had revealed previous scriptures.

IN another blog post I will continue the study of the Qur’an’s proofs, in brief and only with some few, or a minimum of examples, as actually there are too many for me to do in one or two blogs, although the major ones can be examined, such as the Big Bang, which incidentally I had previously (a couple of days ago) written about.

Some may think that “smoke” (and mirrors - I’m only joking) are not enough to prove the Big Bang. But what the Qur’an says, as I have already written, I believe about what Professor Kroner, at a symposium on the subject of scientifically advanced statements in the Qur’an, 1430 plus years ago, are nothing short of “proof” that the Qur’an was not written by a man, or men.

It is not only one Western or European educated non-Muslim scientist’s opinion (or Muslim scientists’ opinions), but many statements attesting to the amazing verses of a scientific nature (although Quran is a religious Book, primarily, and not a science text, as I often tell people), whether the scientist(s)embrace Islam or not as a result (some have done so, May Allah bless them, and all seekers of truth)of their study of such verses and their statements supporting the belief (of Muslims) that the Qur’an must be a revealed book; although they do not always admit it is revealed by “the God of Muhammad”, but some “superior intellect” or some other similar phrase, as Dr. Keith Moore, a Christian, proposed when he spoke in Canada, over two decades ago..

I have noted that there are many verses of a scientific nature, which I will not however discuss here. But stay tuned, insha Allah, for more in future posts, by me, J.D-N

Just a final word about the ‘revealed books’ which I mention earlier. In the Bible is a statement about the coming of the “comforter”, after Jesus, pbuh. He says to the apostles and believers at the time (his followers among the tribes of Israel, because he was sent only to them), that he will go away, “If I go not away, the comforter will not come”, or similar to that, (I’m sorry if it’s not the exact wording, I don’t actually have a Bible anymore, nor any of Ahmed Deedat’s useful books on comparative religion by him). At any rate, Then some earlier people, brother Deedat after them, translated the Greek text, this particular word “comforter” in fact, and the name is “Ahmed”, in other words Jesus is telling his people that after him they should expect another Prophet whose name would be Ahmed, which is a short form, or alternative name for Muhammad (Mohamed is the Orientalists way of spelling the same name). Why would a Christian, one of the suspected forgers or adulterers of the Bible (I mean they adulterated or changed the original book, which is called Injeel by the Muslims, and is a word in the Qur’an) let stand the name of Muhammad (“Ahmed”, which means “the praised one”)? It’s because they thought it meant the Holy Ghost, or something else. Maybe they didn’t think it mattered if it meant another person was coming, such as a reformer? Or maybe they believed, most likely, that it meant Jesus’ second coming, or would appear to the reader that that is what was meant, as they insisted that Jesus had been killed by the Jews (Muslims believe that the Jews wanted to kill Jesus, but that Allah took Jesus up to Himself, and that Jesus will in fact return before the end of time – with the difference that we don’t worship him, pbuh.) Whether Christians want to believe any of this or not is completely up to them, but I think it is important for everyone interested in the Truth, that they should at least ponder some of the verses in the Quran as well as statements of Jesus in the Bible. Muslims believe that some of the verses in the Bible are authentic, that not everything of the original text or scripture was lost, and that some (signs) of the “religion” of Jesus remain(s) in bits and pieces. It is Allah’s will that the Bible has this verse about the coming of a man whose name would be “Ahmed,” or Muhammad. Peace and blessings unto all the Prophets and Messengers of God.