If she wore red, she would be LIttle Red

Zaha S says:  

+Jane Dughatir I don't really understand what I'm denying either?

(LOL< this is a common thing on the internet – I DON’T” UNDERSTAND”< I’m NOT an EXPERT< I haven’t’ STUDIED” – then MY ADVICE IS don’t say things off the top of your head, for GOD’S SAKE OKAY to be FAIR< she is talking about my statements to her ABOUT WHAT SHE DID SAY!!! , so we will stick to that for now)

“I don’t understand what I’m denying either?” (This appears to be my fault, lol, she is being contrary, and she means she understands what I’m accusing her of, but doesn’t agree that she said anything wrong.)

“It is true what you said about Saudia and Iran I never denied that, what I'm saying is their governments are not Islamic! No country in the world practices Sharia law perfectly. I also mentioned that crimes like those are punishable but not all by death, because at the end of the day you need to forgive just like Allah SWT forgives (of course some things like rape and murder are another story). Thank you for calling someone you don't know a weak Muslim and "little" I really appreciate that. I'm not going to spend my time responding to someone who insults me, especially a fellow Muslim. If you are Muslim yourself you would know that Islam preaches kindness. Once again M3asalama”

Well, since we are being forgiving, why are MURDER and RAPE another story?? OH, I KNOW, because also in the west, where she grew up, they are crimes which get punished; her standard is only what AMERICA agrees with. SO, we have to do what AMERICA says; that’s fine if you LIVE IN America, but MOST MUSLIMS DON”T.

But you don’t get to change the sharia, or lie. THAT’S A NO_NO on the internet, BECAUSE< no one will believe you if you LIE>

I don’t lie,(not only, but also) because then I will get caught and no one will believe me, EVER,, especially because I’m a “strict Muslim”; IF I LIE, I’ll have no credibility left!!

Some ppl however, don’t care about their credibility, they figure they are insignificant, and their opinions don’t really amount to anything anyway, (or maybe I am almost the only one who read what they said, so they don’t care – they just want to win an argument, by tip toeing around issues and playing with words), or “I DIN’T SAY That YOU SAID” nonsense is always USEFUL to confuse the discussion; the more confusion, the better to hide what they don’t want you to see, that they LIED and are covering it up, or trying to disguise it as something the other person said wrong.

LIKE MR T< stressing the word “NICE” as if it is a crime to paraphrase someone…YOU will see how ridiculous his ‘accusations’ are. (or even for me to put quotes around the word nice, “NICE” as if he did say “NICE” - and not other things which mean someone is nice. AND what the hell did he think that would prove?? That I didn’t direct quote him??

OKAY I ADMIT IT, LOCK ME UP & throw away the key, forever. I”D PREFER THAT sometimes to this kind of ridiculousness and immaturity.

I said:

Salaam, dear. No, you said the specific crimes that were discussed such as sexual crimes are not punishable and they are ([with death], I’m qualifying this now since I neglected to but I had said it earlier, but as she had said above, “but not all by death” – well, those crimes are punishable by death and she should n’t claim otherwise, does she write the sharia law??Is it her place to make Fatwas, about who gets punished; especially if she isn’t giving any details, just a general rule that “you need to forgive just like Allah SWT forgives” isn’t good enough and is lying. So is stealing [punished, with cutting the hand, and there are rules, but yes, punishment happens) No, Iran and Saudi don’t practice sharia perfectly, I also agree with that elsewhere and didn’t say she “denied” that, so why is she saying “I never denied that”, as if I had accused her of denying that [“it isn’t practiced perfectly”, I agreed and always agree with that statement, nothing is perfect, this life is imperfect and the Muslims and their practice of the religion will always be imperfect – BUT GOD doesn’t require us to be PERFECT, just to try to follow ISLAM to the best of our ability. (THAT’s why, unlike Christians, we don’t believe we need[ed] “JESUS, A.S, to die for our sins.)

I have to protest the way these two (and many like them on the net) point out to me what they said, as if I had “denied them” or accused them of something which they didn’t say, they have said enough wrong that I don’t have to make up other stuff, too…).

THEN I SAID:

“That's in Islam when a country properly practices sharia, which is why even though Saudi and Iran are not perfect models of Islam, they do have such punishments which have always been done in Saudi, following the way of the early Muslims. People read about Islam and books are easy to find, as well as some proper sites on internet. ..."You can't fool everybody all of the time." And you can't fool me. Yes, ma'a salaam. Islam also preaches knowledge of your religion. Even many non-Muslims know Islam better and defend it better than you do. “

The overall tone of her message is “YOU ACCUSED ME OF SOMETHING I DIDN’T SAY (this is utterly misleading and just a red herring attempt to make herself appear innocent) Brave MR T Also does the same thing. HE KEEPS BRINGING UP THAT “HE NEVER SAID THAT SUFIS ARE NICE PEOPLE?? OH NO?? And that is all MY FAULT because I placed quotes around the word “NICE”. SO, I asked him “YOU DON’T THINK SUFIS ARE NICE THEN?? BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN GUSHING ABOUT HOW good they are, not his exact words, and then said in the next sentence, that “SALAFIS and WAHHABIS”( who are ALWAYS MUSLIMS FROM SAUDI ARABIA) or the gulf – IN OTHER WORDS SUNNIS – are BAD PEOPLE, not his exact words. But you can read his exact words; I will post the conversation in full if I have all of it, or post most of it here, or next post

It would help if First, the reader can decide whether they believe that SUNNIS are really that bad?? How come they are so bad and all others, even the SHIA who are also killing and slaughtering MUSLIMS in Syria right now, by the thousands, including children, DON’T DESERVE ANY CONDEMNATION BY +TVEE, but the “WAHHABIS and SALAFISTS” DO??

I”LL TELL YOU WHY _ BECAUSE that is what he has learned on the INTERNET and in the MEDIA> he is always hearing about the bad SUNNIS (because no one on the internet or the MEDIA claims that these “WAHHABIS AND SALAFISTS” are anything but the MUSLIMS WHO ARE FROM SAUDI< or the gulf, or ARABS and practice “EXTREMISM”. That is the CLAIM< which MR T, like a good “SUFI LOVER” believes, just because it gets repeated so many times day in and day out.

IF the READER today isn’t the slightest bit open minded about this discussion, which will take some time, then THIS POST isn’t for you!! IF YOU ARE VERY GULLIBLE and believe everything negative you hear about SAUDI< which isn’t perfect, but so isn’t AMERICA or EUROPE perfect> then you don’t belong here reading my blog. QUITE frankly, the discussion would be OVER YOUR HEAD. OR IT WOULDN”T PLEASE YOU, at which point you will become frustrated or angry, and then call me “NOT MUSLIM” like the very mature and intelligent Mr. T (with an IQ of 128, wow is that very high? Congratulations, for your high IQ; like I care, or even believe you, lol. It doesn’t take an IQ test to know that you are an ignoramus, though!)

MR T< first off, almost from the beginning says he doesn’t know a lot about ISLAM. So, the first cute or nice –seeming girl on the internet who SAYS ANYTHING about ISLAM is his favorite commentator. HE (+tvee) GUSHES ON ABOUT HER (and the sufis).

New York on Islam

(The Libyan American girl/young person replies to someone else, who posted this discussion before me, he is +terente P)

Zaha S

Nov 28, 2013

"Ummm why are you listening to random supposedly "Islamic" groups? Just like the KKK don't rep Christians, these groups don't rep Muslims. Seriously you want to get a good view of Islam then read the Quran. Of course to us Muslims, Islam is the right religion but only for those willing to accept it. It is not going to be the dominant religion in the US because only around 1% of Americans are Muslim seriously why are you being such an Islamophobe? I'm so sick of people like you listening to propaganda, I bet you've never met a Muslim in your life. Peace and may God Bless You."

terente P

Nov 29, 2013

pls dont tell me that CAIR dont represent muslims, but start to fight against that CAIR and tell them they dont represent muslims/islam! :)) if you do that and will succeed in bringing them to stop their activities, then I'll agree with you!

1% of Americans are muslims, but exactly organizations like CAIR try to change that and spread islam in US (there are more of them)

i dont see anything wrong in being an islamophob. there are christianophobes in our societies too and the athiests refuse any kind of religion. everybody can form his/her view how they want. if somebody thinks islam is somethign bad, they are free to think like that!

propaganda is that stupid try to create a positive image about islam, what you are doing here too

"may God Bless You."

God! but not allah (satan)

(Zaha S, says back)

"Ummm first and foremost Allah is Arabic for God and lol I don't think you fully understand the meaning of "Islamophobe". I don't agree with these terrorist groups and most good pious Muslims don't either but they have power, money, and believe it or not the Western governments backing them up so there is not much we can do except use our voices. The only spread of Islam you're talking about is peaceful just like Mormons or Jehovah's witness' at your door on a Sunday morning except even less. Honestly the only thing I'm really concerned about is people looking at weird groups or countries like Iran or Saudi Arabia as models of Islam and thats the opposite no country on earth is representing Islam correctly unfortunately. So please please please as a fellow human being talk to a Muslim about our way of life, don't gather info from Islamophobe sites or people. Happy Turkey Day :)"

Reply (terente P, back)

+Zaha S

no matter what allah in arabic means! its about what are the properties of that allah and they indicate satan, not god. if that what arabs understand as god its actually satan, then is satan their god! worshipers of satan = muslims

you take the arabic meaning of god but tell further down saudi arabia is a weird country :))

you claim there are only some bad examples, but you cant mention a single islamic country where islam isnt bullshit - islam isnt peaceful, no matter which country we take as example

-honour killings

-minor marriages

-death penalties for homosexuality, sex outside marriage, apostates

-slavery

-oppression of women generally

....

we dont need spreading of islam!



Cute Girls Shouldn't Wear the "Sexy Hiijab"

Comments on Comments

There are things which make a video go viral, is stupidity one of them?

I was harsh in my comments on some YouTube™ channels this afternoon.

One girl, although cute was very loud, and her first sentence was glaringly wrong, grammatically. Then she talks about Islam like it is a hobby which you can opt in or out of anytime. One day, maybe you’re praying, the next day, you’re not, you get the picture. That’s, ” freedom of religion” according to some people. But do we have to have 1000,000 YouTube™ videos defending the general Muslims’ laxity in performing their sacred duties posted all over the net? Is the world now a much better place?

For one thing, I don’t believe that most normal Muslims believe it is okay not to pray. Prayer is one of the first pillars of Islam. Secondly, if they claim the right of freedom of speech, then so do the rest of us. If they can comment then so can I, or am I wrong? It seems there are children who think their videos are the efflorescence of the entire internet experience. Worse, there are Muslim youth who believe that their very personal interpretations are the epitome of Islamic thought today. They think that because they are young and energetic, that is an excuse for poor scholarship and that youth alone gives them the right to say and do anything, regardless of what is right and wrong. Many non-Muslims have made similar judgment calls. Of course, it isn’t just youth who say and do irresponsible or stupid things.

And sometimes, “out of the mouth of babes…”

HOW OLD ARE YOU?

One guy, Fousey (somebody-or-other) says, If you like then give it a thumbs up ( I would say thumb up, since the icon is of one thumb up, and you do it once per video) but aside from my tendency to exaggerate small insignificant issues occasionally, which I can do with a fine tooth comb, if I’m in the mood for that kind of bitchiness, I strongly object to the fact that he is greatly promoting his freedom over mine; if I don’t give it a thumb up I can’t comment on his channel (can he do that??) Hey, freedom of speech is my right as well as yours, whether I like the video or not. Of course (I’ll make this perfectly clear for internet) I’m being facétieuse (Is there anything wrong with my French?) and he has every right to block me from his channel forever, which is why I posted several comments after each other and immediately shared them on Twitter™ and Google+™. Thanks for the thumbs up ;) +Karmi Neveg Fousey had 530,000 views on one video!! At some point I started thinking, ”When can we hope for that Islamic revival?”

[just a side note, I tried to find facetious in the dictionary and couldn’t but I did find a word (or expression) I’ve never heard before, which I will share now Parents might want to cover their children’s eyes or ears, lol– Fag hag -. It means a woman who likes hanging around with gay men. But why do both the Oxford dictionary and my computer not have a spelling/spelling suggestion for a fairly common word?? ]

I do comments on comments, too, which is the point of one of Fousey’s vids He suggested we could do comments on comments, like what’s- her -face, some personality, female I think it was, I forget the name. [Revised – it was Ellen.]You can watch the video, to find out who he was referring to. OR maybe you have a good idea already.

Apart from not getting why most Muslims on the planet (and beyond, reminds me of the video description/warning: “Earth is being invaded by Muslims”) know who some actor is, who died recently, which I feel bad about, truly, but also, I don’t get that they are all on YouTube™ promoting Islam (their less than kosher version) by apologizing for the few who want to promote prayer and fasting in the community, and also good manners and character, meaning, not backbiting or snitching or slandering other Muslims. My question is: why do they get to be the spokespersons for Islam?? The majority of “practicing” Muslims didn’t unanimously give them that honor. Besides, there are already many people promoting these virtues; forgiveness, kindness, enjoining good and forbidding evil, Muslim brotherhood (unity, not the political or military wing of an Islamic group) and in an enlightened and proper way, without props like “the sexy hijab” which express nothing more than “somebody doesn’t want to be taken too seriously”. There are hijab styles that are not “sexy” or at least, change the name of the style, so it is, “the coiled snake hijab” or something less provocative than “the sexy hijab”. Read my post, “Everything Is Not Sexy”, if you like.

Okay, not to be overly negative, there are other less important things I don’t like about the videos too, such as the poor English. Okay, if you’re making a video, can it be in a language that doesn’t reflect the fact that your parents probably don’t know with whom and where you hang out most nights? Or did you actually grow up on the streets?

And if you can’t make up your mind, just flip a coin, “Happy early, late, on time Eid…” was ridiculously unpragmatic. I mean, it’s okay to pick a time and a place or to express something within a realistic time/space continuum. I realize she is a nice person at heart and just wanted to include everybody, but whether we celebrate Eide with Saudi Arabia or Malaysia, or post Ghaddafi, with Morocco, lol, it is all basically doing it together, and if she celebrated it already, which we all had, then she should’ve just said, “Happy belated Eide” if her video was done post Eide. What is wrong with being decisive?

That’s a small complaint, but it helps in life to be decisive more than not, don’t you agree?

Comment to My Comment?

Back to the point about English, and word usage; okay, I understand that many of the youth (or overgrown children still living with their parents, as the majority of Muslim youth appear to do, still) are filling a need or what they see is a need for more low quality productions, with stupid jokes and likely many equally stupid followers (by the looks of the number of views, that’s most of the Muslim youth today or their non-Muslim friends too). But I would prefer, (yeah, I just said that) that they make nicer more serious videos about things that matter, or discuss the same subjects but with more seriousness. I can say that, because I’m the adult in this “conversation”.

If you want, just share some of the good Islamic videos on your channel and save your buffoonery for your friends. That way you avoid hateful comments to your videos, and the general public doesn’t get a taste of the poor quality of stuff you churn out like, all the time. Probably, this is getting annoying, and sorry for being so “judgmental”. But I am in the mood to be “judgmental”. Actually, this is my advice, which anyone can take or leave. I don’t know any of these people personally and never judge people on YouTube ™just because I know that I don’t know them personally. Some people come off as arrogant or bigoted, but they are probably genuinely nice people, or at least have a lot of similar minded friends and/or colleagues, who appreciate their unique perspective. Fousey had around 530,000 hits on one video!! 

The Pot Calling the Kettle Black

I’ve had emails from people who sound like nice people, but their comments often leave me cold. It isn’t that I feel the need to judge them, I don’t. But I feel a responsibility to educate people when they seem to ask a lot of questions about Islam or make a lot of comments which are sometimes inappropriate or reflect their general ignorance of Islam. I am not saying that I know more than them, but I do think I know my religion very well, in the most basic and necessary things a Muslim is required to know, especially about basic beliefs and the most general ideas or teachings such as Tawheed (the Oneness of Allah).

Anyway, if they believe that the people leaving negative comments are all judging them, then they are judging those people. Just because someone doesn’t like your video doesn’t mean they are judging you, especially when they say, Allah guide you and things to that effect, which is non-judgemental and a good thing to say. Muslims often say this to each other, not just to people they disagree with. Maybe the people leaving those comments you dislike are just trying to ask you to think about what you are doing and whether or not it is how you could best spend your time. Life is precious, and time waits for no one, right?

You know Fred, Everybody does!

I know that it is probably the case that many negative comments on most channels are from trolls or ppl who like to harass; comments are sometimes nasty or vindictive and people post such, for the pleasure of it; I am guilty of poking fun at ppl sometimes, but I don’t believe in child abuse or cruelty. Many of the owners of the worst offenders might even be children. It is good to keep in mind that most people on the net commenting are probably children too. But if you act like a child in your videos, then beware; you are making yourself a magnet for abusive language or comments.

You know how that guy Fred, made so many videos and they went viral? Some of it is an acquired taste, or rather made for small-minded people or kids. It’s proof that children are a force to be reckoned with. By the way, Fred made an app, it is a doll that looks like him, and he has sold a lot of them. YouTube can be a lucrative venture, too. People can promote whatever they like on YouTube, whether their own product or app or a magazine. And ideas are always being promoted. What kind of ideas, does matter. If someone is promoting “freedom of speech” then he should also practice some by giving free reign to others’ negative comments, occasionally. You can share videos you don’t like but which someone else might like to discuss with you. If that doesn’t work out well, then you can always “agree to disagree”.

"Don’t you see that the lion is silent and yet feared, while the dog barks constantly and is despised?" A Quote by Imam ash-Shafi`i

On YouTube™ spelling doesn’t matter much, but language is still important to communicating the right idea. I will promote one of my least favorite video channels. IrishInfidel has a channel that promotes hatred of Islam. The guy’s real name is Kevin, who sounds very different in one email than his public comments to me. Mostly he doesn’t believe in dialogue, but promoting his videos. That’s makes me wary of his motivations, and I don’t believe anymore that he is an atheist, but might be a closet Christian. In all honesty, it doesn’t matter to me; he can be whatever he likes... He is IrishInfidel on YouTube™ Readers can also read my response to his video in this blog; his name is one of the labels which makes searching for a discussion about him easy. I debunked his video “The Camel is a symbol of Allah” several months ago. I think I promoted that post on Twitter™ and Google+™ earlier today. I take offence at the word “symbol” as opposed to “sign”, and show why there is a difference. Also, the story of Prophet Saleh and the she-camel is an added bonus, which many people probably have never heard of.

I can see why that might help

If you’re speaking English, why not try a British accent, sometimes it just sounds more intelligent. But if the quality of the material isn’t equally impressive, then your accent won’t make a difference to the overall impression; if you are not truthful, that is one of the biggest mistakes, IMHO, you can make on the internet, and that mistake could go viral, too. This is something to think about before posting that next video. The IrishInfidel promoted another anti-Islam video with a British narrator. Did it work? Or will the video go viral despite itself? Readers be the judge, it is about science in the Quran, or the Miracle of the Honey Bees. I wrote my own take on the video in a blog post, probably you can find it easily enough without me having to put the link. (In case not, I will revise this later, I’m offline at the moment.)

I can’t promise anything, but I’ll try to blog about something offbeat tomorrow. It is still within the Islamic topics, but a slightly off the cuff post. We will see, until then, farewell.



American Soldier's Response To Anti-Muslim Comments



#Thiswillneverhappenagain! #rapsensation or bust??



This is not happening!!

"This Will Never Happen Again!" will obviously never be a music chart smasher, but it might break a new record for me..one can only hope. Like this if you...like it. Thanks for readers who shared my blog and to other bloggers, send me a link if you like "Jane Dughatir", maybe we can share. Yesterday, the blog had over 100 pageviews in one day, a new record! If I could keep people interested in posts and sharing maybe I can hit the 25,000 views in seven or eight months. (But that would be really tough.)

I'm doing this for fun, and to spread teachings about Islam and express (our [muslims']collective) views which are not always getting heard.

Many Americans were awake last night between 11pm and 12am this morning (GMT +3) sharing on Twitter and Facebook (the copyright owners know who they are, and so do we); wonder if they lost any sleep over it?? Or ...

 

This will never happen again!

PARODY -- Who Won, Who’s Next, You Decide?

1 - Once upon a time, in the ghraib... if books could speak.

I’m a Book, Revelation, you cannot deny

If you read (pron. is "red") my verses you would surely cry.

If you hide the truth you will be led astray,

You will then regret your birth and choice, Judgment Day.

***

I’m the bible I’m a book, like you I’m written well,

Not by God but with help from Him, it’s just as swell,

If you know the Lord like me, then you will walk in light,

If you don’t, better believe me, then it’s Hell; it serves you right.


2 - Muslim vs Evangelical Christian

Your rap is nonsense, you’re a moron; you can’t even read

- (Like your brother David Wood) -

I think you were, you are, you’re taking speed.


But you’ll probably never get it, gonna regret it, cause your slow

Qur’an is truth and light and right and never wrong,

***

I’ll tell you what I know about Muhammad and Buraq

How did he go to heaven on a horse with wings, that’s crock?

No, the book isn’t right, its wrong, I have to mock.


Get to the real point cause I’m late for a discussion,

Called “Jesus in the Quran, Muhammad in the Bible".

My notes from the last UN session, "rights of modern women" will impress them.



3 - Muslim vs EDL - extreme debate...

Do you know why Jesus died?

- To forgive your sins -

God needs a sacrifice.

***

Don’t be daft, your EDL, your on a road to Hell (not Paradise)

you need a ticket to heaven, cause you’re weak,

You probably can’t even spell.


I on the other hand know what’s good for man and woman,

Don’t get me started on the role of women (in society);

It’s gonna be a long wait, better get your head on straight.

(Unfortunately for the Muslim, it appears he doesn't know the rights Islam gave to women, lol.)



4 - Spencer vs Nadir Ahmed (this is sad_)

Listening to Yusuf Islam, you think your smart, you’ve got it figured out

Your mother couldn’t love you, your own people are sick and dying,

If Islam’s so great, get the brothers and go stop people crying.


You can’t even find shoes to fit you wear sandals everywhere,

A nightshirt for breakfast, lunch and dinner is formal wear.

***

You people always judge the book by its cover, not the book,

You pretend to be smart, but it's not working out, you're racist as well.


Chapter 9 verse 29 gives you human rights,

You’d rather pay taxes, an arm and a leg, to stay six months in London

- and another six in Israel –



5 - Robert Morey vs a respected brother_ who leaves, after hearing the insults about the respected brother, S. Ali. Too bad, he could have won the debate, it isn't the end of the world, that comes much later...



I’m gonna finish this quick, Shabir Ali, I know about his ****

Our preachers are kinda funny and cool; they learned debate (from Deedat)

And they’re sometimes cruel, even accurate


If you don’t like freedom of speech, then go back to your desert cave,

Terrorists and Mullas, you should be ashamed;

Jesus was a man of peace, he loved to break bread,

Your prophet used a sword, he didn’t own a hammer, now he’s dead.


Who Won, Who’s Next, You Decide?

Ch: 9, V:6 [the Quran]

RE: Email about Islam, my response - 1

I'll try to be shorter than you, lol,

 Does Islam Permit Discrimination or Oppression?
Does Islam Permit Discrimination or Racism?

the Quran and Shariah still apply, is all I said. It is flexible but we don't arbitaririly change laws; as long as something isn't forbidden we don't make it forbidden, and something is impermissible, we don't make it permissible. There is a lot of room to live comfortably without fear of oppression in Islam. (Revised)

It is okay for scholars or Muslims to disagree, but only people educated in Fiqh and such can make rulings, they must be proper scholars. Once we have rulings, we can apply in our lives, and we understand that sometimes there is a difference of opinion as well, and we don't necessarily pick and choose, but we are better advised (by scholars) to use prudence, stick with a good scholar or the group of scholars we trust and whose advise and rulings make the most sense to us.

We can't make up our own rulings because we aren't qualified. That's how we can get on with our lives, otherwise we wouldn't sometimes know what is okay to do, etc.

I am talking about important and mundane things, too. For example, there are all topics which get discussed, questions of all kinds are asked, and we need guidance.

I don't think in any society most people just do whatever they feel like without at least knowing that if they do somehting that is not acceptable to the society at least, that they wouldn't be punished or have some consequences to pay. Laws or rules are everywhere, no matter what country.

We all choose how to live and what to abide by. That's why I don't really believe in preaching, but only telling how I think things are. I believe shariah is basically the same since Muhammad, pbuh, and i am glad that it doesn't have to change, so I know what I do to keep within guidelines of the religion.

Slavery was not forbidden completely because of the age in which Islam was revealed, but the Prophet greatly encouraged to let slaves free, which people did a lot, and also his "sunnah" is what we do. Also, the most backwards nations are the ones where ppl still have slaves, not in the ME. This is why if Muslims commit a grave sin, or want reward they are told by scholars here to buy the freedom of slaves in those nations, e.g. in Africa, etc. Sudan still has some, and some others, I don't know exact places.

Just as you have laws in your country, whether secular or religious, (secular in your case) so I have laws I must abide by, and I have accepted that,not blindly but willingly.

I don't think Jews or Christians should have power over anybody, except if they are in their own countries, but what does that mean? You make it sound pretty sinister. And Muslims do okay in their own countries, which is why many good things exist in our societies, even though a lot has changed to bring evil, too e.g. internet is one thing. As I said, everywhere there can be freedom, development can happen, and cooperation or coexistence. We have many non-Muslims in Muslim countries who are pleased to be here. It is sad that there are many who may be oppressed in some spheres of life, or are unhappy. Many Muslims also are having difficulties, due to poverty, sickness, or wars, and oppression, in many countries, even in the West (in recent years).

Muslims had been much fairer in the past to the People of the Book than many people give them credit for. Esp. because we do know what happened to the Jews in Europe when Christians took over. So I don't agree that Christians or Jews can do any better in fact.In time we will see more clearly how the secular governments may also falter if they do not regain their standing as people who believe in and promote human rights and freedoms for all. I believe (about Muslims now) the opposite than what has occured (with the downfall of islamic countries) will eventually happen, and Muslims will in their own way be able to elevate themselves to show a more positive face and more positive outcomes.

Does Islam Permit Discrimination or Oppression?
Islam forbade racism.

Emails Asking About Islam -2

Does Islam Discriminate Against Women or Girls?

Re: Reply to your comment on: Douglas Murray - (SML) Are Muslims Too Easily Offended?

Hi again Jane.


Please feel free to use my thought on your blog. I would appreciate it if you would not change them, LOL.

I think you did mention something to the effect that the moral code outlined in the Koran might only apply to people from that day, rather than today. The Koran for instance seems to have no objection to slavery. I will admit that the freeing of slaves was a generous act, but the institution itself was practiced and seems to be condoned by the Koran and the Hadith. There are very few Muslims today who would agree with slavery. Unfortunately there still are some Islamic people and countries who have not outlawed slavery because of the Koran. There are also very few Muslim people who would marry prepubescent children. Unfortunately there are some who do.


I do believe that 4 witnesses for adultery and rape is unreasonable. I do believe that human beings can rationally determine whether adultery or rape has occurred without 4 witnesses.I also believe that a woman's testimony is just as valuable as a man's and a woman can decide what is appropriate for her to wear without asking her husband. I believe that woman can walk around society unaccompanied if she chooses. I believe it is never appropriate for husband to strike his wife.I believe that stoning to death for adultery or apostasy is immoral.

I also believe it is quite fine for Jews and Christians to have political power over Muslims if they are best at the job. There should be no prohibition based upon religion. I don't believe in the modern world, polygamy is unacceptable.

I don't believe that you do know where you stand with respect to a huge number of moral issues facing human beings today. I don't believe that Islam has worked out a universal moral stance to global warming, taxation, women's rights, polygamy, defensive war, Gay rights, Dhimmi rights, Jihad, apostasy. There is a great deal of interpretation that goes on with respect to these things and they are basically the same things we have to work out in the Western world.

Wrt torture-I generally agree that torture is unacceptable, however since I have a very good imagination, I can imagine some instances where it might be acceptable. This is the problem with holy books giving universal moral prohibitions. Morality actually requires an assessment of the particular situation.

it may be that there is some evolutionary value to belief in a God or gods or spirits. I wonder though, if we are evolving away from that. I think that atheism or nonbelief or at least a minimum belief is far and away the fastest growing. If religion is truly a man-made invention, then I would expect there to be a number of different beliefs depending upon culture. I would expect that there would be great confusion about it, even amongst people of the same religion. I think this is exactly what we find.


Does Islam Discriminate Against Women or Girls?

As promised, I haven't changed any of the email or ideas one iota. I have had a lot of enjoyment reading peoples emails, particularly this one, and it's because of freedom that we can exchange views. So here is three cheers for freedom: Hooray for Freedom, Hooray, Hooray.

That was a bit weird, lol.

 

My reply will follow in the next post, It's ready, but to build up suspense, I'll be posting that tomorrow. (see below for more of my thoughts on Allah, Islam, faith and religion)

Allah has revealed to us 99 names and there are other of His names we don't know. We also can learn about His attributes, which helps us to know Him. That's one means to knowing Allah, and then there are His signs in nature, etc.

Many people say they have changed certain habits and so on, but I don't believe most people change as far as who they actually are. I think most people know themselves pretty well, it isn't about changing ourselves but our actions, which is a big part of Islamic conversion and the time that takes could be short or long depending on the person and his/her background and problems, etc. Some people find the conversion almost nothing to complain about, meaning it is rather easy for them. I didn't struggle myself with wearing hijab too much, though it took me 3 months to get up the courage when I was living at the time in a non-Muslim environment, but that is my personal experience and others have a different one.

I believe I am still the same person my parents raised and they recognize that most of the changes about me have been outer ones and others are more private, such as my thoughts or beliefs on things, which I don't always express to my family for reasons I don't go into here. But they know who I am, that I am basically the same daughter they raised and will always have my special personality and quirks.

I am a more God-conscious person however, and that is something which has been ongoing since I converted rather than something which came and went when I was Christian. It has something also to do with the society I choose to live and the company I choose to keep.

I think you have a lot of preset ideas about Islam and Muslims which makes you say the things you do, in a kind of judgmental way.

No problem, it's been interesting as usual to read your reply.

Some Points:
 

 adultery is proven with four witnesses, otherwise it can't be proven, nor can anyone's reputation be spoiled by talk of infidelity without clear evidence and witnesses  this gives opportunity for the sinner to repent of his or her crime and to stop the adulterous behaviour without being dragged through the mud, as is done in western and european nations whenever a hint of "infidelity" occurs.

It is to preserve honor and life that Allah has made it a difficult task to prove adultery by ordering that four witnesses (they must be male, even in this day and age). This requirement means that convictions don't happen a lot, unless the people themselves turn themselves in to receive the punishement (a worldly punishment will ward off the one in the hereafter). Also, if women were to be witnesses, that would maybe make it easier to find four people to testify, than if all four must be men. What adulterer is going to let people find him in a situation like this? It might not happen every one hundred years, but is a good deterrent anyway, when punishment is a possiblilty.

stats on Muslims show that their divorce rate is rising in general. This means that there is more unhappiness or instability inside marriages today,which is due to many modern reasons. We can reflect that women also seek divorce more often in shariah or family courts (in the ME) or in the West and Europe through lawyers or divorce court. But Muslim marriage is still more successful on averrage than other marriage. Infidelity is also not as much of a problem as in non-Muslim societies, in my opinion (probably stats back this up).

Rape, is another issue and viewed with great gravity by the society and earns the displeasure of Allah and is not condoned in any case. It can be easily proven by a physical examination of the victim; it isn't necessary to have even one witness if DNA testing can prove the criminal without any doubt. It is better to have witnesses to corraborate the woman or child's testimony, or in the case of men also, there is the same recourse to medical witness of a doctor or health professional, and first person accounts of witnesses and so on.

(revised June 9th)



Dearborn Michigan – What it Means to Have a Festival

A person asked me about giving out tracks at a festival in Dearborn; what did I think of it? I responded then that I didn’t know what happened in Dearborn, I’m not from the US (and believe it or not, don’t watch US News that much), or keep up on events in the US. But a while later I saw the video about the Arab festival in Dearborn, the Christians with placards who were being pelted with bottles and pieces of concrete by Arab or Muslim children and were soon asked, by the police on duty there, to leave.

I’m not really interested in the final part of the video, which shows how police later stop their vehicle while they are being escorted by more police to a safe distance; presumably the police don’t want them to come back and are escorting them to the ends of the cultural festival, which has 17 blocks of activity related to the festival. Whatever the protesters then felt towards the police or the city, regarding their rights or an infringement of their freedom of speech right, is not my concern, after they are escorted out of the festival, that’s up to their lawyers to decide; it seems that from what the group leader said, that there had been a court case about events at the last festival and the police or city were not successful in the suit against them. So the precedent from the previous year’s court verdict is in favor of the protestors and as far as any new suit trying to fight the same fight (allowing a presence for the Christian preachers) as the year before. Nonetheless, the group is asked by the police to leave, (the festival in April, 2012).

Deputy Chief of Dearborn

First, it is the law that must be upheld. The police on the scene require compliance whether you are an Arab, a Muslim or a Christian. That being said, the fact that the leader of the group keeps arguing with the police, when they have crowd control to worry about, is in itself a problem. The deputy chief defends police actions saying that it isn’t free speech (or “the signs”) that are the problem, but the “disturbance” which the group is causing by their presence. He has to call a spade a spade. He obviously doesn’t know everything that is going on between the crowd (largely children, and later some youths with horns) and the group of Christian evangelicals or preachers.

After the deputy chief speaks to a lawyer he tells the protestors that they have to leave or they will be “cited for disorderly”. That’s when the group is finally escorted out.

The Crowd - group dynamics

The protest leader claims that the Muslim or Arab children (200 children, he says) have been attacking their group for 30 minutes. During that time, we see some yelling, we see one young Muslim man speaking with them angrily, but not violently, we see many children (I couldn’t say if they are 100 or 50 or 200 from the video, that would need a panorama or view from above) throwing things at the protestors (Christians evangelicals, maybe). Later on there are more Muslims, older youths with horns, making a lot of noise as they walk in front of the Christian group of protestors, some verbal exchanges take place, no real violence of any sort is directed at the group, except from children.

The Organizers - their rights

I have to look at the context of the festival to understand more. For one thing, the festival is not a Muslim festival, but is an Arab festival. As such, I imagine that in Dearborn, there are both Muslim and Christian Arabs. Therefore, there is already in all likelihood a good presence of Christians and possibly Christianity at the festival. Maybe there are booths that are already promoting Christianity, or maybe the Christians and Muslims are not propagating their religious views or beliefs at the festival. Maybe the festival organizers didn’t want any religiously outspoken people or booths with only religious content or products at the festival, i.e. books, CDS, DVDs or video cassettes. We have no idea from the video what was available at the festival or even the theme of the festival other than it is an Arab festival. During some of the filming, there is obvious Arabic recorded music playing, or perhaps even live music.

The cultural festival already has a right, before the protestors, to have their festival. Why their festival should be disturbed by protestors is a good question, and if the eviction of the protestors means a better and safer atmosphere for the festival shouldn’t the protestors be evicted?

That being said, it is not obvious to me at this point if the Christian protestors needed to be there with placards or pamphlets or a megaphone, or even if their message being broadcast at the festival isn’t already being broadcast at some of the booths at the festival. Also, did the singular approach of the protest group contravene any bylaws, or such, as the police officer tells the group’s leader that they are not permitted to use the megaphone. And it seems that they at some point, during their march, are instigating violence, and if they are, is that against the law? But you will have to read on to see what I mean by ‘instigating violence’…

17 Blocks of Festivities

Another thing which should be noted, which is very important is that the festival runs for 17 blocks, so a disturbance in one area will require more police; escorting a group out will use more police but only until they are gone, then the police will of course resume policing the area of the festival; it’s obvious that the group is making some trouble for the police, whether they see that or not. In any case, when police tell you to do something you should do it. I think the protest leader is lucky he wasn’t arrested for obstruction of justice. If an Arab Muslim or a black or Hispanic Muslim argues that much with a policeman maybe he wouldn’t be as lucky as this man.

The most important thing to note, which is of course not a subject of the video at all (a very amateurish slanted video in my view), is the success of the festival and what it can mean for Dearborn. Festivals can become huge and popular gatherings. Festivals can also make a lot of money; is one of the reasons the police and the city want the festival to continue, so that the money made from the festival, which stays in Dearborn rather than leaving Dearborn, will help the economy, even slightly? Why do people generally want festivals? Why do city governments allow festivals? The deputy chief mentions the fact that the Chamber of Commerce didn’t want a bullpen at the festival, so that’s why there are no bullpens; it also seems as though if the Chamber of Commerce is involved that they should also have some rights as far as what kind of activities they want promoted at the festival and what kind of actions they would prohibit, to maximize enjoyment and a festive atmosphere at the festival.

The City - freedom of speech debate

The protest leader complains that the city or police are not well equipped to deal with the crowd, or shouldn’t have given the festival organizers a permit, if they can’t protect the protestors, what I had understood from one of his statements to the police. Well, the police are hoping that they will be able to control a crowd and they also count on their authority as peace officers to be able to evict anyone, including American patriots or Christian evangelicals out of the festival if need be, but without resistance. When someone starts resisting the police he becomes a danger to the public.

The deputy notes that “your head is bleeding” or something to that effect, and that obviously he and his group are in some danger or risk of being harmed further than they have already been harmed. He also points out that the police themselves are also in some danger, due to the actions or presence of the group. If their mere presence is enough to cause a riot, then they should be evicted, sorry.

Arab children vs. Mr. Israel

It is unfortunate that the children persist in throwing objects, especially heavy object like pieces of concrete, which obviously can hurt someone and did. It would have been better if the police had stopped some of the children, and I’m not quite sure why they didn’t just make an example of some of them to stop the abuse.

Instead of enjoying themselves at the festival, buying food, listening to Arab music, riding the Ferris wheel and playing on other toys or games at the festival, the children are attracted to the stoning of protestors. Partly, there is a mob mentality which seizes the children, as obviously children are not the most rational of humans or well-behaved when they think they are being drawn into a fight. They readily accept the challenge unthinkingly; they saw the protestors as challengers, and because they are not afraid of the protestors (no adult is going to attack them, or he’ll be arrested) they are very bold in their stoning of the protestors and verbal abuse. They continue to stone the protestors as long as the protestors continue to give them a reason; which to them is the fact that they are at a festival where they are not wanted. An American girl yells to them, “Go home”, which might show that there is already tension in Dearborn between immigrants’ children, or Arab Americans and others in the community; one Muslim youth mentions that many of the protestors are not ‘Americans’ so much as illegal Mexicans from over the border. Therefore, there definitely appears to be a problem of race-relations in the city, or at least everyone is well aware that differences and problems exist in Dearborn because of race, or economic impacts of the over the border migration of Mexicans into America, whether they are actually legal immigrants or are illegal. (I don’t think though, that illegal immigrants would risk police investigation of their identity at a cultural festival merely because they demand the right to video the crowd, hand out Christian literature to Muslims, or get into a scuffle or argument with some Arab children.)

History of the Festival - distrubances

It is however sad that the festival, for two years in a row, is plagued by some low-level violence and disturbances which serve to tarnish the image of the festival, the people involved in the festival, the organizers, the community as a whole, and put a spotlight on the local government, or police, which makes them appear in a negative light. As American patriots, I think it would be much better to concentrate their efforts on the success of any and all events held in the city which promote the city’s unique cultures, which promotes peaceful coexistence. The protestors seem altogether self-absorbed, just out to promote their own view of the world, at the same time not really promoting Christianity as much as their right to freedom of speech, even if it disturbs an otherwise fun and healthy family activity; it is the families with children who really appreciate festivals, and to ruin it for those families in Dearborn who are there with their children - to give them an opportunity to enjoy a wholesome event; with good food, friends, and what is available at the festival - is pure selfishness and self-aggrandizement. There is no good reason for a group to come into a festival - not with the idea of enjoying the festival, which is the purpose and raison d’être of the festival; that people would enjoy themselves – but to disrupt and attract a crowd. They know from the last year’s events that this year probably the same negative responses to their presence, as a group from outside the festival, coming in to spread their message, where it isn’t necessarily going to be respected nor received, especially by Muslims, who do not need nor want a Christian education (Muslims already know what the Christians believe, it isn’t like they don’t already know). And if a policeman tells you to put the megaphone away, that it is not allowed, then you put the megaphone away. If police tell you that you are to be escorted out, then you let yourself get escorted out; that is the law, pure and simple. You can then take your protest to the courts and practice your amendment rights to sue the government of Dearborn, or the police department.

My question:

One of the protestors is heard saying, “I think when you chop peoples’ heads off that’s provocative.” Does such an attitude belong at an Arab cultural festival, where people want to go to have a good time?

From Here to Eternity - Women - Part Two

-          The non-Muslim complains that women’s flirtations will be minimized, or non-existent or she will never be able to leave her husband for another man, if he is abusing her. This is very absurd on the surface, but if studied more in depth reveals unfounded criticism of Islam’s treatment of women…. How so?

Well, it suggests that men and women only marry to abuse or hate one another. In fact, the opposite is more than certain the reality. Men and women, in the short engagement period that precedes the marriage, usually find that they enjoy each other’s company, and find each other attractive. If the engagement lasts as long as one year, what is often the case these days, there is ample opportunity for either party to a marriage to quit because of “cold feet”. I’ve heard this happen more than once, in our circles of friends and acquaintances. In this situation, no harm is no foul.

Non-Muslims inevitably return to the scripted story of “unrequited love” which is an old idea (not necessarily only a Western one).There is a touch of the amoral, unknown danger, an evil villain, or conflict and the climax, or a resolution, such as the poor girl finding love and then tragically dying (suicide, or consumption are good for a tragic ending). Think Romeo and Juliette, or King Lear’s daughter, who though loving her father to death, literally, her love for her father is unrequited; one of those situations known in psychology which means she will never be able to love another man, or have a happy marriage. Contrast this to Islam, which honors the father daughter relationship, which requires men to treat their children whether male of female with equality. This means not favoring one child over another with more attention or material things.

 Non-Muslims often will discuss love and marriage of Muslims as something which must be against all social norms seen in other cultures. Much the way they see the relationship between fathers and daughters in Islamic or Middle Eastern or Asian cultures. Like their saying, “Muslim women are forced to marry someone they don’t want”.  I remember a program on television, which delved into the subject of Muslims’ marriages, including some insight into how Muslims go about finding someone to love. One man’s story told how he used to watch a woman (who would be completely covered in her Islamic dress) every day on her way to work, or school for six months. Even though he couldn’t see her, he might perhaps have known something about her or her family. Eventually, they did start some kind of conversation. This is obviously not going to be a typical story, in that it is often the family who encourage and arrange meetings between men and women seeking a marriage partner. In this case, though I don’t remember well, I think the man, and even maybe the woman were both mature, at an age where they should already have at least been seriously occupied with the task of who to marry. Rightly or wrongly, there are many ways for couples to meet and decide on marriage. The correct Islamic boundaries are well known, that men and women are never to be alone, for example. This is why even couples who are perhaps not so serious about Islam will at least put up a façade of socially acceptable behavior in public.

I discussed in Part One how previously married women have more right to conduct their own affairs. Even Saudi Arabia recognizes that mature women have more right over their own person, which is why the government has no qualms about giving women over fifty visas for entry to perform their religious duties, such as greater or lesser pilgrimage, or allowing them to travel without Mahram men.  Instead these women travel in groups of other women, to perform their Hajj or Umrah. The government still retains a sense of “parental protection” over all Muslim women, but believes that chances are that nothing untoward or even dangerous is likely to happen when many women are travelling in a group. These women generally will be past the usual age for marriage or sexual exploitation.

Also, women are permitted by Islam to reside in their own homes, if they own a home, or a domicile, whether someone or herself is paying the expense for her. Newly divorced women must wait three periods before they can return to their father’s home, or should be allowed to remain in their husbands’ home so as to determine if she is with child, or not. This is the case of women who are divorced with a chance for reconciliation. If the divorce is a final or third divorce, then the divorce is of the irrevocable type, and she can do as she wishes, either returning to her father, or in her own place. The treatment to women should in any case be kind, as mentioned in the Qur’an, because they have at one time been a married couple sharing the same bed. It becomes the duty of her male relatives to provide for her, if she has no husband.

In practice, many women do travel alone, and even some girls travel alone to other countries, but with friends, or to their relatives in another country. Some travel for school to European cities, or America or Canadian Universities, etc. Women who have studied are not afraid of anything, or meeting any challenge. They are completely free, in terms of life choices, and even in many Muslim majority countries, they are often times socially liberal. But this is none to do with Islam. Yes, Islam does encourage women’s education, just as it encourages men’s education. Islam does encourage women’s freedom as much as it encourages men’s freedom, but there are differences. Some Muslim women exert a lot of influence in their societies, which is much like what life was in pre-Islamic Arabian culture.

Just as the Qur’an stipulates who men and women can marry, it also stipulates, when, how and why. In other areas, such as education, Muslim women don’t feel anymore that they can’t study science or medicine. They are much like Western women in terms of their goals and aspirations. And many non-Muslim women might secretly envy Muslim women for the rights that they do have in Islam. Islam never sanctioned bad treatment of women. There is sufficient proof of this in the Qur’an and Islamic traditions.
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Quran,] 2:235]

“There is no blame upon you for that which you] indirectly] allude concerning a proposal to women or for what you conceal within yourselves. Allah knows that you will have them in mind. But do not promise them secretly except for saying a proper saying.”

Quran,] 2:236]

“There is no blame upon you if you divorce women you have not touched or specified for them an obligation] dowry]”

Qur’an,] 2:237]

”And if you divorce them before you have touched them and you have already specified for them an obligation, then give half of what you specified – unless they forego the right or the one in whose hand is the marriage contract forgoes it. And to forego it is nearer to righteousness. And do not forget graciousness between you. Indeed Allah, of whatever you do, is Seeing.”

Comments That Stick

Read this if you don't read anything else today;
http://onceinalife-diamondraw.blogspot.com/p/incoming.html

“Even the US has had enough with Falk.”  Read the rest of the post(s) in my "Incoming" tab.

I apologize for the misquote, this was not said by N. Rice, but another person.

For the love of God, Draw a Line in the Sand!

The West's Freedom of Speech Laws - why Muslims ridicule (Part I)

A “pedophile guide” on sale on Amazon was pulled last month. The guide for pedophiles was in the top 100 books on Amazon.com because of all the interest it was generating.

The book meant to teach how to sexually molest and rape children, grooming and preparing children for sex, included. And for those not experienced in child molestation, a section on How to look for the most vulnerable children, says a law enforcement officer (in Florida).

[The accused] is charged with “Obscenity charge”, for selling the pedophile book through the mail, from Colorado to Florida, [thereby] breaking Florida state law by receiving 50 dollars for the sale of his book to someone (a deputy, or law enforcement officer posing as an online shopper), in a Florida county.

Selling of such materials is illegal in Florida; the man is being brought to charges in Florida State, but not where he was doing business.

Selling a pedophile guide book is not illegal everywhere in the USA due to Freedom of Speech laws!

(this screenshot used with no permission granted)

What is important?

I tried to ad comment on the website “***sourprose***”, but was prevented. It ran as follows…

“A huge 40,000 Muslims (maybe in Indonesia, or someplace like that), It hasn't happened where I live; calling for the beheading of blasphemers,

yes it has happened in Indonesia. But did they actually behead anyone, if so, how many? What was the grand scale of it? You could apologize

to all those (Meaningless numbers??) of children, and adult survivors, of sexual abuse, who (not a large enough number for you?) lived through

hell on earth, at the hands of their attackers, abusers, the different churches (only the Catholics?). Please r.s.v.p.”

 (Later, she posted a comment on my blog, expressing her right NOT TO show my comment, this is still visible.)

She does not R.S.V.P. After all, she may be thinking, “Who is SHE to tell ME what to do?”  So, now the shoe is on the other foot, is that it?

I think it’s a courtesy, if you say something, and then expect no arguments; maybe you shouldn’t be calling almost “everyone who reads” your blog,

or disagrees with your narrow viewpoint, “an asshole”, I hate it, but that’s what she is/was calling everyone, and I have to explain this clearly. Generally,

it’s common courtesy, even on the net to let people have their say, and Muslim, or Islamic websites often let “idiots” (nicer word) have their fifteen

minutes of fame> but this young woman, (not lady) wouldn’t even allow my comment to be published on her page. Well you know what, “it’s my

party and I’ll cry if I want to” doesn’t work in the real world, I’m not afraid to respond to you, but I don’t have to respond to your barrage of emails

Whenever you want me to, especially considering that you “moderated” (another word for deleted) my comment in the first place! She who laughs last

laughs best, and I will.

Hee, hee, heee!

Maybe she realized that there are intelligent Muslims who are able to voice their arguments in a coherent manner, and in well spoken/written English?

Apparently, following her other emails, this is not the case…how could a Muslim possibly know English? She takes her gamble, “either you don’t know

English, blah, blah, blah, etc, etc, etc…”

Thus, I wrote the previous blog, and encourage your comments, as well. Eventually, if there are many comments, or the language is not appropriate,

I may have to delete some, but probably that won’t happen for a while since I haven’t gotten much traffic yet. Below follows my blog post and some

further explanation.

The URL is http://www.onceinalife-diamondraw.blogspot.com

Occasionally I’ll be going into my archives and digging out “older” posts I’d had on my previous blog at

http://www.Myislamfeed.spaces.com

which is not there anymore because the site closed shop permanently mid-March on Windows lives spaces.

My response to Hannah Jose (posted on my blog):

I tried to ad comment on the website “***sourprose***”, but was prevented. It ran as follows…

“A huge 40,000 Muslims (maybe in Indonesia, or someplace like that), It hasn't happened where I live; calling for the beheading of blasphemers,

yes it has happened in Indonesia. But did they actually behead anyone, if so, how many? What was the grand scale of it? You could apologize

to all those (Meaningless numbers??) of children, and adult survivors, of sexual abuse, who (not a large enough number for you?) lived through

hell on earth, at the hands of their attackers, abusers, the different churches (only the Catholics?). Please r.s.v.p.”

The URL is http://www.onceinalife-diamondraw.blogspot.com/

Others are always stupid, and not funny

Lessons on Day two -

Oh please.. I am only writing this because I am up before ten this morning and had a pretty late night (last night)...then I wake up and think I'll edit my profile page, only...

I decided to do some reading other ppl's blogs (just a little). It happens that the first one I read sets me thinking again (as often people on the net do) about why ppl can be so self-centred? You are writing a blog; shouldn't it be beneficial to whoever might read it (in a perfect world)? But we live with stuff like this daily..the self-centred young women (21! how much has she yet not experienced? You know, you may end up falling in love and marrying a Muslim someday..you wouldn't be the first! )



REGRETS; ever say something and wish you hadn't? We ALL have and then swore we wouldn't do it again. But that's life. Of course, I easily concure the main point of what the young woman was saying (but with a little editing), that SOME muslims overreact (may or may not be an understatement depending on each individual  Muslim's reaction ) to provocations. By the way, you know when you have a bad hair day, or PMS? Well, Muslims have days like that, too. Sometimes, a person just has had enough irritation for one day, or an entire bad week, and your comment, Qur'an burning frenzy, or whatever is the last straw; it's human nature ( Muslims for the most part, knowing them as I do now, are mostly rational, intelligent human beings) to make quick judgements, rude gestures, or even 'freak out' occasionally. Not everyone is a pillar of calm strength, or perfection. Sometimes rational and intelligent Muslims also say incoherent, ridiculous, or inflammatory hateful things because they are caught off guard. It doesn't make a bad person, only a regretful -about -that- one- moment person.



Think, it's not the very guarded, or experienced people that get all the media attention. It's not the person who has "thought it through" and then didn't 'act out', or the person who was too embarrassed to say anything about his stupid friends' comment to somebody, that get's noticed. Extremists are a different issue altogether. But why blog about them, only?



I don't like ppl saying, "I hate this and I hate that", either. It's not constructive criticism. If you want to change the world, better everyone's experience on the planet, then think of more creative ways to express what you TRULY feel.



Any regrets, yet?