Showing posts with label agnostics. Show all posts
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Sunday, November 25, 2018

Why You Hate Prophet Muhammad

Some Reasons The Non Muslims Hate Islam - IMHO

Bc prophet Muhammad was a real person to you.

You can hate a real person, but not a fake person. You can't hate someone in a fiction story, not really.

But your burning hate for Islam and Muslims, is bc you hate their prophet Muhammad.
Or you hate Prophet Muhammad bc of your burning hate for Islam and Muslims, that also is possible.
Sometimes non Muslims say, Muhammad, did this or that evil thing.
They say he married a 9 year old. But where is their proof? It's only in Islamic sources which were preserved by Muslims.

Why don't Muslims just say that they refuse to believe that he married a 9 year old then, wouldn't that be much easier?
But most Muslims probably still believe the hadith of Bukhari, because of several reasons.

1 - They don't want to bow down to pressure from non believers.
EVEN if they have doubts.

I'm not saying this is a bad thing.

Muslims should defend the prophet, and by saying we believe Bukhari's hadith we are defending Muhammad, PBUH.

This shows our great love for Muhammad, bc we put him before we put ourselves and our so called "personal image" which is very important in this day and age.

Bc when we prefer Muhammad, PBUH to ourselves, then we are saying we agree what he did was okay. And secondly, we don't care about what non believers
say about us, that we are bad people who defend pedophilia (which is not even true anyway).

2 - Everything say on social media is recorded, and the world can judge us for our speech and actions.

Is this a problem for Muslims today, do some of us find the pressure and constant ridicule too much to bear?
Or do we lie that we don't believe such and such things, or we are ignorant so we lie and pretend we know but we love Muhammmad PBUH, or what??

We feel obligated to also defend what Muslims in the past, or others have said about the marriage of the Prophet Muhammad, to Aisha, RA.

Therefore, we are not willing to forfeit our right to defend 'child marriage' in those days. We do believe it is less relevant today, than it was in the past, that it has no impact on our present situation, because Muslims are not generally marrying underrage girls, and this is just the case.
Moreover, Muslim men are not pedophiles nor do they believe the prophet, PBUH, was one.

The most common arguments is that Aisha, RA, was old enough to marry and she was happy, so why should we care how old she was or that today ppl don't marry 9 or 10 yr olds.

We are living in the real world, which is to say we believe that history is more important than personal thoughts about what happened. You may not like something, but it is what it is.
You may think one thing about it, but the truth doesn't change just bc you hate it.

The truth doesn't care about your feelings, to steal someone else's expression... I think it was Ben Shapiro.I don't remember the exact quote... Maybe Douglas Murray also said that before him.

Anyway, we know the history of Islam, it was not filled with massacres and forced conversions.
The non believers often lie about the historical record. They also exaggerate the instances when some traitors were killed and their families enslaved.
The fact is, if the Muslims didn't kill those men or take their families captive, what would they have done to them??? It was also not as many as 800 or 900 men, imho.

The Banu Quraiza took their chances fighting the Muslims and lost! Then are we supposed to sympathize with them and not with the Muslims??
What happens to traitors today? Does America let Edward Snowden sell secrets to Russia and then let him off bc they are nice guys? NOT THAT I HAVE ANY OPINION OR EVIDENCE ABOUT EDWARD SNOWDEN, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
Or does China permit drug dealers to do whatever they like in China, just because they want to make lots of money and think of themselves as legitimate business people?


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We are strong in faith and that must really bother many non Muslims which is why their attacks on Islam never cease.
They focus a lot on the life of Muhammad, pbuh, but they don't really talk about the good that Islam brought, the good that the Prophet taught, etc.
Because that makes him a real human being with a good character, who it happens, married one young girl.
He is a complex character, not a demonic one sided and flat character from a trashy novel like they want to pretend.
Sometimes they even say he never existed, like Douglas Murray and others, because they want to say Islam was made up by somebody and that Muhammad is not even mentionned in the Quran, which is another lie
they say bc they don't even read the Quran. There is a chapter called Muhammad, and there are also verses mentioning him by name.
So while Jeuss and Mary and other prophets, peace be upon them, are mentionned more than Muhammad, PBUH, but there is still an entire chapter named after him.
So, this isn't something that shows that Muslims love Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, or respect him MORE than prophet Muhammad, but it shows that Muslims believe in all the prophets of Allah.

Another thing that non Muslims never talk about is that the prophet had a father-in-law, and Abu Bakr, RA, gave his daughter in marriage to the prophet.
That was done in those days, bc a girl's and boy's marriage is not just their decision, but it affects the families of the two.
Even boys used to get married young compared to today, but people focus on the marriage of an older man to a young girl. That's bc they hate the idea of a young girl with an older man.

They don't know that the prophet Muhammad was not a feeble old man, or that he was very healthy and good looking, so they hate that he took a young wife for himself.
But the non believers ignore the  hadiths always mention stories about his wives' jealousy and how they all loved the prophet, may Allah be pleased with them all.


CULTURAL BAGGAGE:

Culture also doesn't care about your feelings!! #fyi

That's why some ppl continue to practice FGM, even though they are hurting their own daughters (it was done by women in the past, not men)

Cultural norms and customs were attacked by Islam as evil and stopped!
That's why most Muslims in Arabia don't do #FGM to their daughters. It is only the ignorant ppl who do it! And they do it despite the evil consequences to their own daughters bc of the pressure from the
people around them!!!

There's sufficient proof Muslims are strong, we don't bow to societal pressure every time something is said about Islam.
We are strong enough in our beliefs to defend Islam and Muhammad, PBUH, even if it is detrimental to our livelihood or safety sometimes. Remember that incident at the #DAYOF FREEDOMRALLY

So, a person can't really argue that Muslims don't love the Prophet or it's just something we are saying with our mouths only, like #MimzyVidz has said in one of her videos.

If they can hate a man they say didn't even exist, then surely we can love a man we know existed!!

 And surely someone who spends their entire career writing or blogging or making videos about Islam and Muhammad, is someone who has strong feelings either way, love or HATE  .

Will they say they don't hate Muhammad, yet they say he was a pedophile and a rapist or killed Jews to advance his own selfish goals, and was a warmonger? #AstaghfirAllah

They do (or do not??) hate someone they never met!?

Or are they HYPOCRITES who make videos about Islam, pretending to hate it, but they are really doing it to get more subs and more views on their channel? Which is it?

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Lastly, the non believers have a big problem with child marriage, bc they are very 'emotional' about the issue due to their cultural baggage.
They have a history of child marriage, but they also have an abysmal history (and it is a modern phenomenon) of child sexual molestation, child rape, sodomy, etc.

They also have a history of fake prophets who use their religious authority to abuse young girls or boys, too.

It isn't only the Catholic priests or Catholic Church who has done that. It is also other Christians. A Google search will easily bring up links to such stories which have happened in modern times.
So we understand why ppl are sensitive, but its no reason to hate Islam.

There are even ppl who are sincere who believe in Islam who were once child victims of sexual abuse or rape.

They did not let their personal experience (though they live with it daily) prevent them from learning about true Islam. They were not blinded by hate, like many people today who have never even suffered any injury or oppression!

The real hyppocrites are those who claim Islam is mysoginistic or a Satanic cult, but they don't speak out about the evils in their own society or the daily crimes happening to women and children.
Some non Muslims even wish that Muslim women will be raped so they can see how other rape victims suffer, or that Muslims will "keep marrying 9 year olds" so that 'everyone' will see how 'evil' Islam is.
But the reality is, those problems are largely western or European problems. Facts don't care about your feelings or your ignorant claims and prejudices!!! #morons #haters

It is the lying and hypocritical non Muslims and apostates or atheists like them, who continually make videos about Islam and Muhammad, who are evil! Let them laught at this statement if they want to, but they are not good people, and they promote divisions in society, which is also treasonous.
Well, what can we expect from ppl who defend the Banu Quraiza all the time and then cry about some "injustices" done to them by the Prophet Muhammad, according to their narrow viewpoint and skewed interpretations of history.

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Tuesday, December 31, 2013

Why I Raise My Children Without Christmas

This is my response to the article chosen by CNN for the best list in 2013, "Why I Raise My Children Without God".

1. God is not a “bad parent”. He is omniscient, all powerful; He is the Lord of the Worlds.

It is common for western people, and maybe others too around the globe, to compare God to people. But God isn’t a person, nor is He anything like us.

God gave us books, and sent messengers who would teach us right from wrong.

2. God doesn’t tell us to lie. It was the mother who wanted to lie, as she points out. She was the one who was weak and needed to learn that her son can understand and learn; it was her duty to learn how to be strong enough not to lie about her own beliefs. All parents make the mistake in thinking that their children can’t handle things, whether the news about Santa Claus or the fact that millions of children live in poverty or are starving in some parts of the world. Life is tough.

But teaching that she doesn’t believe in God, is her right as her son is hers. Others of course will disagree, but that is basically the law. But it isn’t natural not to believe in God, just the opposite. That being said, I don’t expect that most people will hide their true feelings or beliefs from their young children forever. Eventually, like the mother of the article, they find others also who can share a similar experience. It isn’t any more difficult for atheists to tell what they believe than it is for others. I think this is a woman who was able to manipulate opinion and get a mediocre article published and even rewarded. (CNN didn’t do a good job choosing this article, in my opinion. Many readers said as much, maybe differently than I would)

Racists or Islamophobes also teach their “world view” to their children, but that doesn’t mean that they are right. It just means that they are free to do so.

3. God doesn’t tell us to ignore reality. The woman writes, “How many times have you heard, ‘How did God allow this to happen?’ and the answer is “’It’s not for us to understand’”,  she writes. But the truth is - that is the reaction of many confused believers, agnostics, Christians, or others; not all of the people on earth, though maybe a good deal many.  
Muslims don’t think this way, and maybe Hindus or Buddhists also have a unique perspective. Whatever one believes, blaming God is popular, because that is the idea that has spread, and largely through the fault of Christianity. Christianity teaches that God sacrificed his son, so that we could have eternal life (if we are Christians). Not all religions give us this easy “cop out” or easy way out of our religious responsibilities. Muslims believe that they can also go to “hell” if they don’t believe and act properly according to their religion’s teachings. Or for things like missing prayers, watching improper movies or television, fighting with siblings, and all the things one can think of are considered "bad".

I believe all religions do teach responsibility in day to day activities, however. It is wrong to assume that Christians are not responsible parents or citizens, just because they believe in a savior. It is important to note the difference between their idea of a forgiving God (and a "saviour") and their idea of brotherhood with the commonly "good" outward expressions of their faith (like charity, modesty) which are in themselves justly called admirable.

God doesn’t tell us to be lazy or let bad things happen. When we are able to, we have to take responsibility for our welfare, our children’s’ and neighbors welfare, help our relatives, friends, neighbors, and help out in the community if we can. That is what most religion really focuses on. So it isn’t fair to blame God or religion when people and communities do not take care of their own, or when disasters happen. Sometimes, these are preventable, or we must be ready for any situation, such as natural disasters, on a national scale, and nothing prevents us from doing “good” except our own laziness, or selfishness.

This is a world where God created us to work, not to relax or take it easy; it is His will that we try our best as in a race, to fulfill our duty as the vice-regents on this earth, so that we can earn His pleasure in the next life. In doing good, we are earning points for later, while advancing our good in this life and helping others to advance their goals, too. Life is a struggle, and not a picnic.

Your destiny and your future:

People who believe God should make our lives easy and simple do not understand life and the possibilities. Yes, bad things happen, too. But God doesn’t tell people to hurt other people. People do bad things because they are evil, or they don’t care about others, and so on.

Thus, God doesn’t require or ask us to “abdicate” our responsibilities. No religion should teach such an idea, unfortunately, that is in a way what Christianity and the idea of a “savior” have given the world. No wonder people are confused. It is however very simple minded to blame God for this. It is the people who wrote the book or corrupted the message who are mostly to blame for this situation and despise of God and religion. To be fair, the idea of a savior isn’t the only teaching in Christianity, there are many beneficial and good teachings nothing to do with the central ideology of Christ and the resurrection or (the other) more otherworldly teachings.

4. God isn’t here, no. God is not in this world, or in the universe, but is “above the throne”.

The fact that Allah exists, and does as He wills is enough of a “logical answer”.

What is illogical about suffering? Isn’t it true, if you clumsily allow your hand to touch the hotplate or a fire, that you will burn it and feel the pain? Isn’t it logical, that if you let your child play with toys, he might fall down, or hurt himself, somehow? Isn’t it logical that pollution we cause by burning fossil fuels, or driving our cars, because it is faster than walking to work, is our fault, and not God’s fault. But do we take responsibility for many of our actions? Do we stop flying because it is disastrous for the environment, or do we fly because we want to see our family on holidays, and it is quicker than driving halfway across the country, or travelling by horse and buggy halfway around the world? What is logical isn’t always what the best thing is it?

5. Psychologists teach that if a child is rewarded after he has done good, without any promise of getting rewarded, then the reward is good for him, he realizes that he has done good and gotten a reward. But after a while don’t you think children know that they will get a reward at least sometimes or a nice trip as a “surprise” even though they didn’t ask for or “expect” it. Sure, kids learn fast. But bribing children is wrong, so we don’t give them the reward before they do the thing - that earns the reward - of their own volition. Sometimes parents make mistakes, and they are tired, so they give in to bribery, though they know it’s wrong.

Religions also teach that good has its own reward. It isn’t as if waiting for a lifetime to go to heaven is going to be an immediately gratifying and therefore overwhelmingly attractive offer to young children. We teach them, as religious parents, that God rewards for good, but having to wait a long time will become boring and of course children would then lose interest in doing good – the same could happen to adults, too. This is why all parents, - whether religious or not - teach their children that doing “good” is what is the right thing regardless of what they receive or what it costs them personally. Sometimes doing “good” is costly. Don’t religious people give charity, or alms? Isn’t that money they part with willingly? People teach their kids that there are more important things than money, or owning things, and that sharing, giving, helping out and so on, are all good things, and make us feel good.

The immediate reward is most always something positive, makes us feel happy, and isn’t something tangible. So it is a fallacy to say that God doesn’t teach “good”. Also, religions are basically good, though some of their teachings have been corrupted. Christianity is one in point.

6. As a religious person, I have never once told my children “God has a plan for you”. This woman assumes that all religious people believe and say the same basic things. I think most religious people are well meaning, just as the woman says she is well meaning in not telling her child God exists, because she doesn’t want to lie to him. But it is wrong to assume so many things about all religious people and that all religions teach the same basic things.

We are responsible for our own destinies, to do our best and to expect the best. Yes, God might well have a “plan” as she puts it, but we don’t know what that is, so we are the ones who must decide our destiny and plan our futures. We are our own masters in that sense. That doesn’t seem like narcissism does it?

We strive and then “hope” for the best. Sure, the outcome isn’t always what we would have liked, or the best outcome, but that doesn’t mean God doesn’t know what will happen. He is the all seeing All hearing. That being the case, He answers our prayers “sometimes” in this life, and other times, He promises us better than what we asked for, such as the tremendous rewards for our patience, in the Hereafter, if our lives were not so great, or didn’t work out exactly the way we wanted, so it is the case for most others people. Only a few people never experience great loss or pain in their lives before they leave this earth, and fewer still never lose loved ones in a real “tragedy”. Most people have their share of good and bad times, ups and downs, health and sickness, etc. Most people, until this millennium, have outlived their parents but not their children. At least in the western world. It is interesting then, that it is mostly western atheist people who complain the most about “God not being fair”. Well, they have not seen most of the suffering, which even their own governments have caused, so they should not even dare to mention the “suffering” or what is “fair”, without first taking stock of what they have done to either prevent or reprimand their own government, or challenge the status quo. It is a fact most of the wealth is in the hands of a few, and that no one is forcing atheists either, to see that others be able to share that wealth, or at least refuse industries to pollute in their backyards, while America and others are outsourcing work to poorer countries, etc. Most problems are not something even true atheists can use to point at  and say is any “god’s” fault. It is even hypocritical for them to blame religious people's "god" or "gods" for troubles from murder or genocide, to earthquakes and tsunamis, when these are out of all of our control, and if religious people could prevent these, they would like to just as much as the atheist. It is true, that some things, religious people also blame on atheists or "sinners" anyway. AIDs, or other diseases, or catastrophes.

If being logical is what matters, it is logical that a "god" who is seen by many believers as a "parent" or "angry" might indeed want to destroy much of humanity for its sins. The fact that the same "god" is also "loving" seems contradictory to the atheists or non-believers. But believers often do not have the same problem with this perception. They believe, as Muslims do, that God does what He wills and His decisions are just.

Whether believer or non-believer, each person will have to deal with life and happiness and sorrow often happen to each of us regardless of our outlook or beliefs. Even negative people often experience happiness, and positive people often experience sadness or tragedy. That is the human condition. We are created human, not supermen, nor angels. To expect perfection is stupid, to reach for it is human. We know we can’t be perfect people, and our children can’t be perfect, nor can life be perfect. But, most of us can live with the fact that life is what it is and we are here whether we like it or not. It is better to learn to rely on ourselves, and also trust that friends relatives and our closest loved ones will be there for us, if not, then we already have learned that we must largely rely on ourselves to help ourselves. We have learned that life is really a struggle, and not a picnic.

The meaning of Hope:

Religion does teach us to trust and rely on others. By learning trust, we also learn hope. Hope isn’t just an idea or an intangible, but is something we come to see as real and something we can expect will lead to tangible outcomes.

You have a dream, or a hope, you strive, and then you see, sometimes in the near or a more distant future, the result of hope and trust and striving. That isn’t “believing in ‘nothing’”. That is belief in a - real and immediate sense - in good and in the goodness of the world. The world isn’t all evil or perfect evil doesn’t exist.

Religious people do live in the “here and now”:

Heaven is not meant to be an idea that gives us hope or meaning. It is meant as a reward; likewise Hell is meant as a punishment. The real test is here and now, and the here and now is always the focus of Islam’s teachings. I cannot speak much for other religions. But I don’t think Christianity puts the same emphasis on the here and now as does Islam. I never felt that way as a young person, growing up Christian.

The fact that we can’t see or touch something doesn’t mean it isn’t there. The proof will be in the pudding, but not here and now. It isn’t however something which everyone wants; it is each person’s choice to believe or not to believe. Religions are not forced on people anymore at the point of a sword (and not in Islam), but maybe governments sometimes force schools (or public schools) to teach religions which don’t belong in secular society, or in public institutions. As for Islamic society, what is permitted is also the choice of the rulers or people, their own choice - often a cultural or religious history exists which lends itself to a more accepting attitude toward religion in general. Many Christians and Muslims live in the Middle East or Africa side by side, and do not have problems with religion in schools.

It is each society which must decide how to proceed with this subject, whether allowing separate classes for students of parents who permit religion class or not. Also, the same can be said about some other subjects, or courses, such as sex education or even anthropology. The mother is wrong to think she is alone, when we know that this isn’t a new problem and this is an ongoing debate for the new millennium, which is decades old already.
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The excellent question is who decides which articles make it to the top for the year? Because this article is the same old same old, except from the perspective of a poor mom, who has pulled the heartstrings of many people, and pulled the wool over their eyes in doing so. Many better articles than this in the list, this one however, is not one of my favorites, nor would I have chosen it. “I think this is a woman who was able to manipulate opinion and get a mediocre article published and even rewarded. CNN didn’t do a good job choosing this article, in my opinion.”

But that’s just me.



Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Agnostics by the passage of time

Too Easily Offended?


[Good] morning Jane or good afternoon in Bahrain.

Thanks for another very thoughtful reply.

I don't know Dr. Moore and I'm very willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, that he is an earnest person. I believe he is wrong when it comes to these Koranic verses because I have read them myself. For the life of me I cannot understand what he sees in them, but I don't see what other religious people see in the book of Mormon, Upanishads, many verses of the old and New Testament, or Nostradamus for that matter. I also don't understand why he did not convert to Islam if he feels these verses are the word of God. It strikes me as strange to think that he would think that the embryonic verses are inspired by God but the rest of it is not, particularly those verses that consider certain Christian beliefs, like the divinity of Christ and the death on the cross to be anathema. Where these verses not inspired by God? Perhaps he has been able to finagle a different interpretation of these verses? I have great experience with Christians and Jews who are extremely efficient at interpretive gymnastics such that they can make any passage fit with modern understanding. I was once given a fascinating book by a Jewish Rabbi called the "science of God" by man called Schroeder, who is a very important Israeli scientist. It's amazing how he used general relativity explained this six days creation. I've also listened to a great Christian apologist called William Lane Craig, who has debated many Muslims, use similar interpretive gymnastics to explain away embarrassing passages in the Bible. No doubt Hindus find certain passages of their Scripture to be ecstatically life-changing and I have seen Mormons passionately assert that their book is the word of God.


I do not lump all theists into one bunch except in respect that they all believe that they know the mind of God, through some sort of Scripture. In addition they all claim that religion has changed their lives and given them a sense of the transcendent. Most religions in some way believe that those others are deliberately and malevolently rejecting the truth. Christianity and Islam particularly think that those others are going to rot in hell for all eternity for non-belief.
I watched a video yesterday on YouTube of a popular Islamic person reciting a Koranic verse in front of hundreds of people. He actually has a wonderful voice and just listening to the rhythm I would think it quite beautiful, except when I was reading the translation. He actually got people to weep as they contemplated how Allah is going to punish nonbelievers in hell for all eternity and how believers are going to get whatever their heart wants in the afterlife. The rhythm is beautiful, the content IMO, horrific and tribal.

[When] I left my religion, I found my life so much better. I could look at things honestly without threat of hell. No longer was I terribly concerned about converting people to my religion, but I found myself basically the same person. My life has its trials and tribulations, just like yours, and I still have a great sense of wonder at the beauty of life.

Sent to: Jane Dughatir
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Hello, Stu, I quite enjoyed the email  because it was at times a sincere effort to think about matters from two dichotomous perspectives. I agree with one thing, and that’s that not all religions have the same take on punishment, the Jehovah’s witnesses don’t believe in a Hell, if I have understood their belief in an afterlife as heaven on earth for some, or maybe all creatures with a soul. Not sure, but it shows that there are sects which dampen down the fearful elements of Godhead, to make belief more palatable to a wider public, but have no grounds in the actual scriptures, or very little, and a lot of hemming and hawing in their semantics. The bible is quite clear on this issue, but people tend not to want the truth because they are very sensitive and their fears reflect the general fears or rejection of central beliefs because of this learned response to the mere idea of punishment.

Do theists all really believe they know the mind of God? If they did there would never be any agnostics. Most agnostics had a religion, which they left to pursue and/or reject any other options. They are in spiritual limbo, like the position into which  Dante put two early Islamic philosophers ( Ibn Sina and Ibn Rushd,  not Ghazali, obviously, who was more despised by critics) onto the heights (al-Araaf) in his famous work, because he respected him too much to consign him directly into Hell. (Graham, 2006) Ibn Sina was a drunkard    (Graham, 2006)
according to historical fiction if I can call books like Mark Graham’s, “How Islam Created the Modern World”, an orientalist type attempt to explain the rise and fall of the Islamic Empire.
 
Dr. Keith Moore doesn’t specifically say that he doesn’t believe that there are other passages in the Quran which are believable as well; his refusal to accept Islam, is his own choice, which could be explained with some thought to why people are afraid to change, for example, or because they like the status quo, or they actually believe that there is room in God’s idea of justice for more than one correct religion. This is in fact one way some adamant theists approach religion in general because they don’t want to reject any possibility; but they are unfortunately left coldly alone and uncomforted, like driftwood which eventually gets separated from its fellow travellers, suddenly night falls.
Take care.