Showing posts with label Tafsir Quran. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tafsir Quran. Show all posts

Thursday, February 23, 2017

What is Jihad, Seriously, Again??

"Please point me in the direction of a copy of quran and sharia that you believe is right. And I will see if it differs from those I have allready. No compulsion in religion Holy war is the duty of all moslems."

Someone wrote, the above and wants to know, What is Jihad?

The reply I wrote, follows below. If anyone has a better definition or explanation, please feel free to send me
an email or comment below, thankx. The comments are 'screened', like Muslims at an international airport, before posting, so it may take a while before you see your comment.

Reply:
No, there is no "Holy War". That's a Christian evangelical idea. Their words. Jihad simply means striving in the path of God. If someone builds schools, mosques, roads, wells, that's all charity that earns rewards for the person who donates to such projects. It is the best kind of charity, something that benefits for a long time.There are types of jihad, too. Fighting one's own desires, is also jihad. When many people talk about Islam or jihad, all they talk about is "unjust war". War in Islam is for defense.
The Battle of Badr and Battle of Uhud, the two most remembered battles didn't have many deaths or casualties compared to many other wars. The pagans or the Muslims had to go. God favored the Muslims in the end, and Medina was established as a Muslim capital. It took Muhammad, over twenty years of preaching but most of the Arab pagans converted after that. Mekkah was a bloodless victory, in that everyone surrendered, and only the criminals were not released (there was actually one man who went into the Kaabah to escape and he was killed).
The head leader, Abu Jahal had died, and some of the others had already converted before the Fateh al Mekkah, that day, so the rest of their tribe soon followed, like Khalid Ibn Walid, who later converted, but Abu Sufyan another famous person had converted before that, and his wife was HInd, a woman who had hired an assassin to kill the Prophet's uncle Hamza. Despite this, they converted of their own free will when God willed. And became good Muslims.
Another case in point is the Jews and hypocrites in Medina who sided with them, after declaring their Islam, which people always bring up. Why were Jews killed in Medina or evicted? Because they were traitors. Do you want traitors who attack you to be given a free pass?? Do you only HATE Muslims but LOVE traitors?? No. War is just at certain times. Americans will "never forget" 911 but they forgot Iraq's innocent children very quickly. (SOMETIMES SOME) Americans and (SOMETIMES SOME)Christians are some of the worst hypocrites alive today. Muslims don't say that war isn't justified, but they believe that killing innocents is forbidden.
If some Muslims do that, they are the worst criminals. STOP saying (not you personally) that Muslims never say anything when terrorist attacks occur. We are against terrorism and killing of innocents, but when we say that, who is listening?? Oh. No one.. Obviously you still believe the lies about Islam or you wouldn't be asking about "No compulsion in religion". Don't be lazy and do some of your own reading. One book which is pretty good is "The Sealed Nectar". It won't cost you an arm and a leg. It is a biography of the Prophet Muhammad, and tells a lot about the battles, including Badr and Uhud, and why the Jews (traitors) were killed. It won a prize for the best biography in a contest, and was written by an Indian Muslim scholar and translated into English. There are many hadiths showing how kind and generous the Prophet Muhammad was. His character is pure and good, but non-Muslims want to make his character vile and evil. God forbid we should not defend him.
There is no translation that will do justice to the Quran, not just because it's Arabic, but because translators are human beings, and other languages also aren't as great as the Quranic Arabic. English, especially, is a young language, and you can see how it is being destroyed today. But there are some translations that are better than others. The Yusuf Ali one was edited because it had bigger problems than some others.
The Bible has many verses that must be embarrassing for Christians, some people say the same thing about Hadiths. Well, the hadiths aren't the word of God. (There are Hadiths Qudsi, which are God's words revealed to Muhammad, but not part of the Quran). But the majority of hadiths/sayings or traditions are not God's words, and also they were written and compiled after a long time. So they are more like what the Bible is in terms of how long after the events they were collected into books. The bible is also not God's word, so that explains why there are a lot of wrong things in it. No offence to people who read it to study it and get some good out of it. Cherry picking verses is the past-time of the non-Muslims. They do it with their own book and with the Quran (translation of the meaning of the Quran). But many people still say it is one of the best today (if you get the edited version). Learning Arabic is impossible for most people. But it is different when you know some Arabic and can read the original. That being said, the problem isn't even which translation but that people read with a closed mind, and there's no 'medicine' for that, except to ask God to open your heart and mind. Shariah is Islamic law, there is only one "islamic law". There are colleges that teach Usul Fiqh, jurisprudence. They will teach about the way to understand and apply laws. You know, stuff I haven't studied indepth.
There are many non-Muslims in Muslim majority states and they are not all fighting each other. Muslims work with non-Muslims here. We have a fairly peaceful country. The government is fair, and people are free to live and work. There is also one of the oldest Catholic Churches in the ME in our country (I am a citizen now too, as are many people who got their citizenship in the past couple of decades).
Just like any other person studies law, it is studied in Muslim countries, and also some other countries today. There is ijtihad, which is consensus of opinion, where a question is something the scholars today may not know about, such as things that never happened in the past, or for which there is no ruling. In law this is like looking for precedents, and if there aren't any then you derive an opinion from looking at the whole body of works on that subject and using their brains. Judges can be wrong, also when making judgments, and this is not denied. But Islamic law lays a lot of emphasis on proofs, and circumstantial evidence isn't emphasized. Even if a man is found with a knife in his hand at the scene of a stabbing death, doesn't prove his guilt, for example. There was such a case and the judge makes sure that he gets to the truth, if possible, or else the person can't be convicted of murder. In a very old case which happened, a man was actually found not guilty, because it turned out he confessed because he thought none would believe him anyway if he told the truth. He had come upon a murder scene, grabbed the weapon and then been found by people. Later, a man actually confessed, because he was afraid that he would be responsible for the murder of the victim plus the unjust killing of the person who confessed to the killing. I guess stranger things have happened. There *is* no compulsion in religion, so just go about your life like you always have if you have no interest in learning about Islam. Men are responsible for the expenses even when women work. That doesn't mean women marry men for their money, like many people say. Many non-Muslim women also are converting to Islam here, and also men are converting to Islam. There is no forced conversion. People are free to live and work, and they are free to worship wherever they are able to do that. In Canada, Muslims often pray at work, on their break, and it's not against the law. Why do people think freedom of religion is such a difficult concept??
Good day.

I THINK THIS IS ADDED LATER? :

I live in Bahrain, and it's fine, people have recreation and all the many things that they have back home, even many of the same foods, restaurants and fast food places, they may have a church (it varies in the ME from country to country). Not every Christian denomination has a church obviously. But it isn't the responsibility of a government to give land away for every church that some people want. I think the same goes of the masjids (mosques) in non-Muslim countries.I don't object to laws that are meant to protect people, and countries have a right to make such laws. But there are also laws against wrongful oppression of immigrants, etc. It is not only fair, but required that governments treat all their citizens equally and punish the wrongdoers, but not wrongfully convict innocent people or treat people who are not criminals like criminals. All governments, if they abide by the humanitarian laws, will treat citizens and also immigrants, or visa workers with kindness, justice and secure their peaceful existence and human dignity. Unfortunately,that's not always the case, is it? Islam has human rights, and even animal rights. These are binding in the Islamic texts, and are obvious.



[Jane Dughatir] Thanks for reading! Have a nice day/evening :)

(EDITS are in round brackets: when I probably insulted many ppl already I was informed by a friend about the error/mistake and corrected my wrong sentence. I have already apologized on social media. #clickbait #racism)

Sunday, January 10, 2016

The Thinking Atheist - Did God Reveal the Quran?

The Expansion of the Universe

The video "Scientific Facts in Quran" (1 of 10) tells that the Big Bang is mentioned in the Quran, which is a scientifically accepted theory/fact.
"While observing the sky... Edwin Hubble...discovered that the...constantly expanding Universe."
Further research proved this to be so..

This fact is mentioned in the Quran as well. Therefore, it is proof that the Muslims knew about the "expanding universe" and that is what proves the "Big Bang" occurred, and that the "cloving asunder" describes that monumental event.

The fact that others might also have believed this points towards a Creator, because how would have any early people have known about this event, which had no human witnesses, except if God had revealed the fact to them? If anything, this proves that the Quran is also the word of God, as the previous scriptures were the word of God.

The Thinking Atheist website pretends that this is something that doesn't favor the creationists (or Muslims), but he is wrong.

Other facts, which are accurate descriptions are the creation of the human inside it's mother's womb.
This could not have been known during the Prophet's lifetime. Nor are the three stages (or also, three layers [of darkness], as sometimes are mentioned in other verses) revealed in any other scriptures. (Revised)

Please see the video for both the descriptions of embryology.



 

Richard Dawkins vs. Islamic Science: A perspective

This post is to explain better the 'question' of whether Muslims understand the Quran and/or accept scientific evidence, when examining specific verses.
 
The verses are introduced and explained on the website, in English as well as other languages, with reference to the text/book "A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam".
 
The following is being introduced as evidence, about something of a controversy regarding Richard Dawkins blind belief that the Quran is wrong and his only proof is that a young Muslim girl/student in a science classroom doesn't know how to explain the verse(s) in question.
Unlike other scientists, such as Maurice Bucaille, or Doctor of Medicine, Keith Moore, Dawkins doesn't bother to investigate the original source before condemning the Quran to the 'fairytales' corner of the library.

 "So I think there's a very, very pernicious influence that is lasting up to the university years. That must be coming from certain schools." [Muslims, who he reserves special dislike for]
He said that he noticed the "utterly deplorable" effect they were having first hand after visiting a Muslim school in Leicester as part of a documentary he made last year called Faith Schools Menace?
"Every single person I met believes if there is any disagreement between the Koran and science, then the Koran wins," he said. [Understandable, though it is considered wrong and a form of "child abuse" to promote Islam in schools, or the 'creation' idea]
"I spoke to a group of girls, and to a senior science teacher who believes the world is 6,000 years old. [I am highly suspicious here, because the end of the sentence doesn't have a quotation mark... did he really say this?  or is he being misquoted? Notice that all the other sentences have proper quotation marks on both ends of every sentence.]
"It's just utterly deplorable. These are now British children who are having their minds stuffed with alien rubbish."
Mr Dawkins said he was not so worried about the expansion of faith schools if they were the kind that "vaguely" have a kind of Church of England-style assembly.
But he was holding "his fire" for the ones that are teaching "total nonsense".

This is a link to the original article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8814298/Richard-Dawkins-attacks-Muslim-schools-for-stuffing-childrens-minds-with-alien-rubbish.html
 
 
IF you don't have an English explanation of the Quran, you might be able to borrow one in your public library; Muslims sometimes ask for permission to place Quran copies free of charge in their local libraries.
 
 
 
 

 
 
The video does show that the girls come to the same conclusion, and the teacher suggests this is because of their free choice and their ability to think for themselves, despite the environment in which  they are studying (Islamic school). But she also says they are told the right opinion from an Islamic perspective, because the Quran teaches that God created human beings (in their human form).
 
Of course, people have a problem with this 'teaching method'. Yes, religious schools teach science in schools but not through a secular lens.
 
The Quran's position on human evolution is clearly that there was no human evolution.
 
Is the Quran a good source of scientific information?
 
It isn't a science text. It is a religious text. The girls say "yes" it is a "good source" of scientific information.
 
There are verses which do speak about natural phenomena or point the way to facts which were not known during the Prophet Muhammad's time nor for many centuries after that, in many instances.
This is really what the children are alluding to. They do not view the Quran, a holy scripture, as a purely scientific resource, and their understanding is that the Quran is the truth. Therefore, they do not accept the theory of evolution, but there are many interesting verses of a scientific nature that should not be dismissed outright.
 
Dawkins dismisses some of the verses outright, and in fact, he dismisses the Quran, even though he has not studied it. Like many non-Muslims, he does not take the claims made by the Quran at all seriously. There are many non-Muslims in the past who did not have this dismissive attitude, and in fact they travelled to Arabia to study the Quran, and non-Muslims learned Arabic so that they could study at Islamic Universities, in Spain at Cordoba and elsewhere, throughout the centuries after the spread of Islamic knowledge and following the propagation of Islam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2IEvykdCpQ
 
Richard Dawkins says that "respectable" scientists believe in evolution, "as all respectable scientists do". In other words, Christian scientists who do not accept the theory are not necessary of the same 'caliber'. He doesn't outright accuse them of being not "respectable" but he doesn't appear to give their opinion any weight, maybe because the Bible appears to be merely 'nonsensical' stories, and contains factual errors, or scientific errors. In places, it contradicts itself.
Perhaps the six days is not really six days, but six periods of time, which is how I would probably interpret the Biblical text about Creation. But the existence of light and dark before the creation of the sun and the moon, is less easy to explain away.
 
Evolution could occur by natural selection; but he says this isn't very obvious.
Islam doesn't specifically say anything against 'natural selection' but this needs further study, Muslim researches and an Islamic contribution, too.
 
Where did the one cell (for all life) come from? Asks one student.
 
"That's a rather more difficult question" (between 4.5 and 3 billion years ago)
"The first replicating entity... that means copying". DNA makes copies of itself, but with mutations, because without mutations you couldn't have evolution.
 
"a chemical event..." is the origin of life, therefore, he says.
with some "mistaken" chemical versions of a molecule (then you have the origin of competition, he says).
 

 
The Quran doesn't accept this "simple" beginning, but the Quran speaks about the "big bang", which one male student then asks about, after this origin of life explanation.
 
"From bacteria you could get groupings of complicated cells", he adds.

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@comments

Steve McRae 3 months ago
+BOB OVER "If a group of Humans went to mars and stayed away for 100,000 years they would probably no longer be homo sapiens"
 
What what??? Of course they still would be homo sapiens, a species doesn't just morph into a new species...while they may diverge, there still will be homo sapiens and even the divergent group will still be in the genus homo. A new species does not mean that the ancestral species can not still be extant.                   
 
+KoolBreeze420 Yes, they would still of course be primates...but in speciation from phylogenetic lines we can say subspecies still retain their lines of phylogeny, but if the race of homo sapiens diverged to the point of being biologically reproductively isolated to be a new species the would in the Linnaean classification system be given probably a new name since we would have two independent species sharing common ancestry.       
    
+Steve McRae Well probably more than 100,000 years, but on top of that, there still would most likely be homo sapiens. Also, the population would also have to be fairly large to increase the likelihood of a viable gene mutation.
       
 In the video (see the corresponding link below) with the atheist professor (now a Christian) one of his student's questions is about this problem, e.g. how can something with defects become perfect or better; I ask, how can something more simple become more complex. If we consider the male and female cells, they join and produce a viable fetus by the will of the Creator, therefore they must be very complex, compared to cells that don't differentiate, for example the liver, or skin cells. I know that this is 'explained' by the role of DNA and genetics, etc. but it isn't a complete or satisfactory explanation.
 
 
 
Therefore, though the Muslim student "doesn't understand" the Big Bang, doesn't mean that the Quran doesn't mention it, or even propose the Big Bang theory, which it does.
 
His physicist friends don't ask about "before the Big Bang", admits Dawkins. He disagrees that one shouldn't ask the question; here he will differ with many others, including most Muslims I dare say.
 
The Earth's beginnings, like the Universe's beginnings is the Big Bang. Some argue on websites, that the Quran (actually, the English explanation) falls short of science, because the Earth is much younger than the Universe.
 
The earth actually came out of the same materials as the Universe, and it took millions or billions of years to "evolve". What we know as the Earth today, is very young compared to the Universe but it's beginnings nonetheless were at the instance of the beginnings of our Universe. This certainly isn't as big a problem for agreement between Islam and Science as the Christian claim of a "young earth" of only several thousand years.
 
What does the verse actually say? That is disputable, and it isn't at all true that Muslims give an actual estimate for the "creation" of Earth, for example, the Quran says that the Universe came into being in the Big Bang, but the Earth is not yet evolved at that point. God later creates the earth, in Six or Seven Days. This is explained in terms of "long periods" of time. In other words the earth's cooling, and evolution. The development of mountains, the splitting of the plates of the earth, could also be included, for example. After many millions of years AND after the cooling of the earth,  sometime God sent Adam and Eve to begin the population of the Earth with human beings.

 
The fundamental idea, that we are all cousins, was something Darwin says, and Dawkins "doubts" that science will prove later that he was wrong about that. He admits that science doesn't have a holy grail or a book such as a religious book, which proves all the things that science says today. He knows that science hasn't proven without a doubt the connection between apes and humans for example, yet he insists that 'human evolution' is true.

He would immediately change his view if the evidence was there that really disputed the current  evidence of evolution.
 
 
Richard Dawkins Debates Creation Theory


Evolution is not observable.
 
 
 
 
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See the above link for a video where the Biologist speaks in New York in 2009, about his book,
"The Greatest Show On Earth".

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Do you really believe the world started a few thousand years ago? asks Dawkins; He tells a student if your RE teacher believes that "I would be really surprised". Meaning that since the teacher has studied science at University she can't possibly believe something (that most ppl assume the Quran teaches e.g. a young Earth). 
He doesn't know that Muslims DON'T believe that the earth is a few thousand years old (actually the age of the Earth is not addressed at all in the Quran), but that is what some Christians (not all) and some Jews (not all) believe; this just shows his ignorance about Muslims' beliefs about Earth history.

I wager there are no texts by Muslims during all of history that stated that the earth is a few thousand years old only.

The salty water and sweet water don't mix.
 
This video will explain something about this natural phenomenon. The reason, which is found in the Quran, is proven by science. An experiment mixing two glasses of water, one salty the other sweet, doesn't prove scientifically the 'halocline' found in nature, or the phenomena of the barrier or also the non mixing in the estuaries, which is another phenomena which hasn't been explained in this video.
See the above link for the text which explains both of these natural phenomenon, as described in the Holy Quran.

Ask yourself, is the Quran at odds with science on this, or is Dawkins at odds with Muslims?

 

Saturday, March 29, 2014

3,000 Angels Is Sufficient (Part One)

 RE: Vegan Atheist RE: How many angels? Is it a contradiction?

Ayah, 124-25, Chapter A’ali Imran (Ch.: 3)

Ayah, 9, Chapter Al-Anfal (Ch.: 8)

The explanation on the internet is easier to understand (apparently) - a link follows (only in Arabic).

(See P.293, “the Gracious Quran” by Ahmad Zaki Hammad, for a clear explanation of the verses.)

The book P.179, and/or P.67, “Al Mawsua al Qurania al Muwyaisara”,

Allah, SWT, tells the Prophet, SWS, to remember, when he told the Muslims when they prayed for help, “Behold, O Prophet! You said to the believers: Will it not suffice you that your Lord shall reinforce you with three thousand forces from the angels sent down to help you?”

The next ayah (and the arabic tafsir is explained) says,” Most certainly, if you are patient and God-fearing and the enemy forces come upon you suddenly your Lord will reinforce you with five thousand forces from the angels…” Allah is speaking; answering the question above (or what the Prophet had asked) as instruction only, because He is all-Aware. He promises even to send as many angels as there are enemies; “ and the enemy forces suddenly come upon you” is another exacerbating condition, requiring more divine assistance, but will come only “if you remain patient and God-fearing” despite the strength of the enemy.

Therefore, there is no contradiction; Allah would send more angels to strengthen the Muslims in certain conditions (as He wills). It is apparent that some pagans arrived, so even 3,000 angels were sent, but the Muslims were strong enough to defeat them (with 3,000 angels present) and 5,000 (or 2,000 additional angels) did not come (according to the opinion of scholars).

The Sahaba (on the internet, an Arabic site I will provide the link for, mentions his name) tells that when the Muslims heard that Karaz bin Jabber Fahri was going to assist the non-believers, the ayah to send 3,000 angels, and that 5,000 would be sent if they were needed (and the Muslims in that case would have showed patience, or would not get the greater assistance of 5,000 additional angels) was revealed. This teaches that they Mujahedeen should always have patience if they want the assistance, whether or not they can see the angels, they still believe in Allah’s promise, etc.

About Surah Al-Anfal, the explanation for it, says, that Allah sent them one thousand angels, "Murdifeen", one after the other/consecutively (also) at the Battle of Badr. This means that both instances, some angels were sent, that it is in fact NOT the same battle (of Badr) but that the troops of angels came consecutively (is what happened). This occasion was at Badr (a location), and is simply referred to as Badr (known as the first major battle in Islam). Badr II happens much later after the Battle of Uhud (it is the appointment (mentioned) which is to take place, for fighting, one year after the battle of Uhud.)

Both, 124,125 of Chapter 3 and verse 9 of Chapter 8, were revealed about battles at Badr. (Or one is at Badr I, mentioned in the verse in Sura Al-Anfal [Ch:8, V:9] the other at Uhud (or possilbly) another battle or a skirmish after the battle of Uhud; there were many of them over the course of 23 years or so – It isn’t clear to me where the battle (in connection with Chapter 3, Verse 125) took place, but I will provide all the references, from Quran (The Gracious Quran, by Hammad Zaki Hammad) translation (of the meanings), and the Seera of the Prophet Muhammad, in English, by Al-Mubarakpuri. This will be in the next post, with my comments, which are largely my own thoughts, but which could also be the opinion of others, as I have read. - Revised)




The Explanation with Proofs:

3:121 “Remember, O Muhammad, when you went forth in the morning from your household to settle the believers in positions for fighting at the Battle of Uhud…”

3:122 “Then two groups among you were about to become faint-hearted…”

Is speaking about the famous “Battle of Uhud”. (checking the details, revise)

3:123 is (obviously) speaking about the Battle of Badr (Badr I, is meant, because it was the only battle taking place at Badr before the battle of Uhud).

Reads, “And truly God gave you victory at the Battle of Badr before this, though you were humble in number. “

Only fourteen Muslims died in this battle, as the sheikh writes, in the biography of the Prophet, on page 270. (Al-Mubarakpuri)

3:124 “Behold, O Prophet! You said to the believers: Will it not suffice you that your Lord shall reinforce you with three thousand forces from the angels sent down to help you?

Allah is reminding the Prophet, SAWS,  of what he said previously, or before the battle, meaning either at Uhud, or possibly at some skirmish before Uhud. More than likely this verse is revealed during the battle or just when it was about to start, and in response to the Prophet's supplications which he made every time the Muslims fought - Even during the 'fear prayer' in the thick of the war with the different enemies of Islam, throughout his prophethood. He was then informed of the guarantee of the angels (3,000 of them was the actual number.) Because it was a tougher battle, the divine assistance was greater than at Badr I. (Revised, Mar. 31st)

In comparison to Badr I, at Uhud 70 Muslims were killed/martyred.

3:125 “Most certainly, if you remain patient and God-fearing and the enemy forces come upon you suddenly, your Lord will reinforce you with five thousand forces from the angels of marked distinction.”

This verse is (probably) about the Battle of Uhud. But can be also used generally for any occasion when the number of Muslims is much less than the numbers of the non-Muslims, requiring that angels be sent, e.g. three thousand, or five thousand.

This is Allah reassuring the believers, that whatever the obstacles, He will help them, and if the non-believers are many, they only need remain constant and have firm belief, and He will assist them. (it doesn’t matter if the assistance is three or five thousand, and Allah knows and we don’t know, how many angels He will send, in such circumstances.)

The Quran is not only for the believers during Muhammad’s time, but for all believers, therefore, it is only to reassure the believers, no matter what the situation, whether the believers are slightly outnumbered, greatly outnumbered, or impossibly outnumbered. Since it is for all time, the Quran must be easy for the Muslims to understand, the fact that some non-believers argue against it, without sufficient knowledge, doesn’t detract from the message, which Muslims in all cases should believe in.

3:123 “…Thus be ever God-fearing and be conscious of His help, so that you may give thanks to Him.”

3:125 is clearly about a battle (Uhud, or another battle after the Battle of Uhud) where the numbers are greatly in favor of the non-believers, but also, after the first battle of the Muslims (Badr I).

It is possible, and I haven’t been able to identify, for sure, which battle it was , if it is Uhud, only, which this verse (#125) is about, or after that, e.g. Tabuk. In any case, it isn’t the same battle where 1,000 angels are sent.

Badr II is also called "the Appointment".

So, this is not a contradiction.

That the verse has 3,000 or 5,000 is not a contradiction, it is just Allah promising more “troops” if they are required, “and [if the] enemy forces come upon you suddenly”.

In human terms we would call this “upping the ante” or “reinforcements” in military lingo. Allah promises 2,000 reinforcements, e.g. 3,000 + 2,000 = 5,000, or it could mean, either 3,000 or 5,000 during the battle, (at the beginning, or during, isn’t mentioned), which is probably the correct interpretation (This is my analysis, not a scholar’s, so that’s why I am giving two different “interpretations”, but from the language it seem to be that either 3,000 or 5,000 "in quick succession" (only) is meant, not 3,000 and later 2,000 additional angels. God knows Best.)

It is the fault of the non-Muslims, whether atheist, or Christian, or other, who do not hesitate to jump to conclusions about the nature of the Quran, assuming it is replete with errors, or contradictions, when in fact that isn’t the case.

I hope I’ve explained this particular case sufficiently so that there isn’t a question about any contradiction or human effort about these verses. (in Surah Al’ Imran, and Surah Al-Anfal)

Some non-Muslims ask me why I say there are different "interpretations"? I assume they are asking why we don’t know the meaning of the verse, but it is obvious that the interpretations are either correct or incorrect, and that they rely on the writer’s own assumptions or misunderstandings, if they are not correct, and rely on correct views of scholars, with proofs, if they are correct. It is that simple. Of course, in that light, there are many interpretations, some will be correct, some will be wrong and others will be “close” or “almost right”.

If I’m interpreting a verse, with my imperfect knowledge and I haven’t asked a scholar for his opinion, then of course there might be a flaw in my understanding and interpretation. It is not necessarily my own “opinion” only, but it might not be the correct view of a majority of the knowledgeable people (e.g. scholars or according to the earlier Muslims views). Sometimes, what I write is my own opinion only, so then I should tell the reader this, as in the example above. But it is much better to avoid speculation, and to give proper sources and quote knowledge from people or sources which are reliable.

Some Advice:

When reading the Quran, please keep in mind that the verses throughout the book were revealed piecemeal, or little by little, over the course of 23 years. Also, some chapters are revealed before the Hijra (in Mecca) and others are revealed after the Hijra (when the Muslims had travelled to their new home in Medina). Actually, some Meccan verses will probably have been revealed at other places, but during the Meccan period. I.E., the prophet, pbuh, travelled to Taif to invite people to Islam and to other places, and was either rejected or assisted, or some people accepted Islam. There are probably some verses, but definitely hadiths connected with some of these times, which were revealed outside of Mecca, during the Prophets call to Islam. The same can be said about some of the verses (called Medina verses) revealed after the Hijra. They may have been revealed at locations outside of Medina.

It isn’t much easier to tell when hadiths/narrations were on occasions outside of Mecca and Medina; some details will mention the name of the place, or who was spoken to, but that isn’t always the case. For this particular exercise, I compared the hadiths, the verses (The Gracious Quran) and the book of seera (biography of the Prophet) to determine, as best I could where the verses about certain battles or skirmishes, and invasions were revealed.

The Arrangement:

It is obvious that verses are interspersed, some dealing with different battles, even in the same chapter. This is why there is much commentary about how the verses and chapters have been arranged. Allah, the Wise, revealed and arranged the verses, and instructed Muhammad, pbuh, about the arrangement (also by a kind of revelation – e.g. He spoke to or inspired him, or the Angel Gabriel was sent to tell Muhammad about these things).Of course, the Quran was arranged once all the verses had been revealed (into its final form).

The verse, "itha ja al-nasr...", or Sura/Chapter Al -Nasr (The Assistance) revealed in Mecca when the Muslims were a small band of believers, before they were permitted to defend themselves, which caused hardship, and the non-believers used to defend some of them, or some wealthy Muslims would buy their freedom. In fact, without the assistance of some of the non-believers, it is likely more of the Muslims would have died, and Muhammad himself was put to some trials (though the Muslims know he was not going to be killed, and those occasions were trials for him, to purify him and to elevate his status) When this verse was revealed the pagans laughed at the revelation and ridiculed the Muslims, who were unable even to fight back - they laughed that the Muslims could be confident that they would some day attain a great victory in a battle, or that would even imagine supremacy over the pagans in the future.

The first ayah/verse revealed was "Read in the name of your lord..." in Mecca.

The final ayah/verse, revealed in Medina, was, "This day have I perfected your religion for you...". 

The seera (biography) tells how, on the occasion of his visit to Taif, when the non-Muslims rejected his invitation to Islam, and they abused him, the arch angel Gabriel, AS, came to him and said, “here is the angel of the mountain…”, and he was given the option for the city to be destroyed, but he didn’t want that. There is no verse connected with this event (but I could be wrong about this point.)

The fact is, many ordinary Muslims know these verses and have learned the context of their revelation, and also know that the Quran was not sent down or revealed in one Book, before it’s arrangement, so it is even more miraculous, that verses revealed over twenty-three years, were then organized into the Book, in such a way that it is easy to memorize, melodious, beautiful and inspiring, etc. and also proves that it was not the work of a man, but divine inspiration. The Quran is in the “Preserved Tablet” where it was before it was revealed to mankind.

Caution:

As for comments by non-Muslims who cannot even read Arabic, or don’t have any books of tafsir, including the works of Muslim scholars, there is a fitting verse in Sura Al’ Imran which says,

“O you who believe! Do not take anyone as a confident, apart from those who believe in your own faith. And beware! Those who disbelieve will spare nothing to corrupt you. They love that which overburdens you. Already, bitter hatred has become apparent from their own mouths. And what their hearts conceal is greater still. We have, indeed, made clear to you the revealed signs, if you but use your reason to understand His admonitions.”

(Ch: 3, V: 118, The Quran)

There are other things still to be said about these two chapters in particular (regarding the battles). For example, that the number of angels sent matches the number of enemy fighters, etc. for which I will provide more proof, in an upcoming post. The best book to read for a true picture of the history connected with Quran, is my favorite book of seera, "The Sealed Nectar", which I reference often in my writing.

Thursday, August 29, 2013

End of Summer Reading

Internet Is the Perfect Way to Go, If You Want Information Fast

Internet is the perfect way to surf(ace) information, but beware of the Wolf in Sheep’s clothing.

I might say, “don’t ever trust an evangelical”, but I have a cousin who is one, so I won’t do that here, anyway”. She was a very nice young lady (now a very nice woman) whom I haven’t seen for a very long time.

Alee ibn Abee Taalib, the fourth Caliph (may Allah be pleased with him), said, “May Allah have Mercy on Aboo Bakr, for he was the first one to gather the Quran between two book covers (i.e. in one mus-haf).”

‘Abdullaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allah be pleased with him), was reported to have said, “Verily, this Quran in front of you is about to be snatched away from you!”

His student asked, “How could it be snatched away from us while Allah has made it firm in our hearts and we have recorded it precisely in our mus-hafs?!

He replied, "It (the Quran) shall be taken up in one night, and everything in the hearts shall be snatched away, and everything in the mus-hafs shall go, and the people shall become needy from it (the event). Then he recited, what means: (And if We wanted we could take away that which We revealed to you).”

I’ve said, and here is the proof, that the Quran will be removed, in a moment, or in “one night”, here, and that no Quran will remain, and people will also forget it, on that night.

This is very different from how David Wood imagines, the Quran was “forgotten”. In fact, as I proved him completely wrong, and in English, only, as looking into the Arabic translation closer, wasn’t even necessary; I used Wood’s own examples, his own video, and “deservedly debunked” him.



Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Agnostics by the passage of time

Too Easily Offended?


[Good] morning Jane or good afternoon in Bahrain.

Thanks for another very thoughtful reply.

I don't know Dr. Moore and I'm very willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, that he is an earnest person. I believe he is wrong when it comes to these Koranic verses because I have read them myself. For the life of me I cannot understand what he sees in them, but I don't see what other religious people see in the book of Mormon, Upanishads, many verses of the old and New Testament, or Nostradamus for that matter. I also don't understand why he did not convert to Islam if he feels these verses are the word of God. It strikes me as strange to think that he would think that the embryonic verses are inspired by God but the rest of it is not, particularly those verses that consider certain Christian beliefs, like the divinity of Christ and the death on the cross to be anathema. Where these verses not inspired by God? Perhaps he has been able to finagle a different interpretation of these verses? I have great experience with Christians and Jews who are extremely efficient at interpretive gymnastics such that they can make any passage fit with modern understanding. I was once given a fascinating book by a Jewish Rabbi called the "science of God" by man called Schroeder, who is a very important Israeli scientist. It's amazing how he used general relativity explained this six days creation. I've also listened to a great Christian apologist called William Lane Craig, who has debated many Muslims, use similar interpretive gymnastics to explain away embarrassing passages in the Bible. No doubt Hindus find certain passages of their Scripture to be ecstatically life-changing and I have seen Mormons passionately assert that their book is the word of God.


I do not lump all theists into one bunch except in respect that they all believe that they know the mind of God, through some sort of Scripture. In addition they all claim that religion has changed their lives and given them a sense of the transcendent. Most religions in some way believe that those others are deliberately and malevolently rejecting the truth. Christianity and Islam particularly think that those others are going to rot in hell for all eternity for non-belief.
I watched a video yesterday on YouTube of a popular Islamic person reciting a Koranic verse in front of hundreds of people. He actually has a wonderful voice and just listening to the rhythm I would think it quite beautiful, except when I was reading the translation. He actually got people to weep as they contemplated how Allah is going to punish nonbelievers in hell for all eternity and how believers are going to get whatever their heart wants in the afterlife. The rhythm is beautiful, the content IMO, horrific and tribal.

[When] I left my religion, I found my life so much better. I could look at things honestly without threat of hell. No longer was I terribly concerned about converting people to my religion, but I found myself basically the same person. My life has its trials and tribulations, just like yours, and I still have a great sense of wonder at the beauty of life.

Sent to: Jane Dughatir
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Hello, Stu, I quite enjoyed the email  because it was at times a sincere effort to think about matters from two dichotomous perspectives. I agree with one thing, and that’s that not all religions have the same take on punishment, the Jehovah’s witnesses don’t believe in a Hell, if I have understood their belief in an afterlife as heaven on earth for some, or maybe all creatures with a soul. Not sure, but it shows that there are sects which dampen down the fearful elements of Godhead, to make belief more palatable to a wider public, but have no grounds in the actual scriptures, or very little, and a lot of hemming and hawing in their semantics. The bible is quite clear on this issue, but people tend not to want the truth because they are very sensitive and their fears reflect the general fears or rejection of central beliefs because of this learned response to the mere idea of punishment.

Do theists all really believe they know the mind of God? If they did there would never be any agnostics. Most agnostics had a religion, which they left to pursue and/or reject any other options. They are in spiritual limbo, like the position into which  Dante put two early Islamic philosophers ( Ibn Sina and Ibn Rushd,  not Ghazali, obviously, who was more despised by critics) onto the heights (al-Araaf) in his famous work, because he respected him too much to consign him directly into Hell. (Graham, 2006) Ibn Sina was a drunkard    (Graham, 2006)
according to historical fiction if I can call books like Mark Graham’s, “How Islam Created the Modern World”, an orientalist type attempt to explain the rise and fall of the Islamic Empire.
 
Dr. Keith Moore doesn’t specifically say that he doesn’t believe that there are other passages in the Quran which are believable as well; his refusal to accept Islam, is his own choice, which could be explained with some thought to why people are afraid to change, for example, or because they like the status quo, or they actually believe that there is room in God’s idea of justice for more than one correct religion. This is in fact one way some adamant theists approach religion in general because they don’t want to reject any possibility; but they are unfortunately left coldly alone and uncomforted, like driftwood which eventually gets separated from its fellow travellers, suddenly night falls.
Take care.

Sunday, June 16, 2013

Internet Is The Perfect Way To Go, If You Want Information Fast


“Their dislike and distrust of half of the population, women”?
 (Douglas Murray)

This is quite unbearable, almost too much even for me to listen to. It smacks of a completely hopeless case of “racism”, or “Islamophobia” and a “sickness”.






Internet is the perfect way to surf(ace) information, but beware of the Wolf in Sheep’s clothing.

I might say, “don’t ever trust an evangelical”, but I have a cousin who is one, so I won’t do that here, anyway”. She was a very nice young lady (now a very nice woman) whom I haven’t seen for a very long time.

Alee ibn Abee Taalib, the fourth Caliph (may Allah be pleased with him), said, “May Allah have Mercy on Aboo Bakr, for he was the first one to gather the Quran between two book covers (i.e. in one mus-haf).”

‘Abdullaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allah be pleased with him), was reported to have said, “Verily, this Quran in front of you is about to be snatched away from you!”

His student asked, “How could it be snatched away from us while Allah has made it firm in our hearts and we have recorded it precisely in our mus-hafs?!

He replied, "It (the Quran) shall be taken up in one night, and everything in the hearts shall be snatched away, and everything in the mus-hafs shall go, and the people shall become needy from it (the event). Then he recited, what means: ( And if We wanted we could take away that which We revealed to you ).”

I’ve said, and here is the proof, that the Quran will be removed, in a moment, or in “one night”, here, and that no Quran will remain, and people will also forget it, on that night.

This is very different from how David Wood imagines, the Quran was “forgotten”. In fact, as I proved him completely wrong, and in English, only, as looking into the Arabic translation closer, wasn’t even necessary; I used Wood’s own examples, his own video, and “deservedly debunked” him.


The Big Bang theory has evidence in the Quran.

http://www.chatislam.com/



Friday, June 14, 2013

This Page Is Blank. But not for long. Heads Up!

Look for my new Page, "Heads Up", which is more Questions and Answers. As well, I will teach you about the Art Of Debate ("The Art of War" which is debate, not Jihad)

Please send suggestions for topics, or email me if you have something to say. There will be a new Page for emails in future. I won't be answering longer emails or questions in Gmail anymore, but refer any and all to my blog. I will however send links to those who are interested in Islam or my blog writing. Peace.
 The Art Of War In Debates - my secret to success or happiness

What Quran says about the Big Bang

Sunday, June 9, 2013

How do you "interpret" the Koran?

An Opinion:


“I really like what you said about freedoms and the search for peace around the world. In my country, Islamic people are allowed to practice their faith without any government interference. This is guaranteed by liberal democracy. We have come a long way in the West. I'm not sure that any Islamic country that exist today or has ever existed will treat all human beings equally under the law. I'm not sure what to make of that story about the Prophets teaching of the effeminate man. It may have been one of understanding and compassion, but as you have already said, many scholars debate about the authenticity of some of the Hadith and Surrah [Or, Sunnah?]. Unfortunately, many very powerful Islamic clerics have condemned homosexuality to the point that they believe that gay and lesbian people should be stoned to death! They apparently have other Hadith to support this.”

“I can tell that you are peaceful person. I'm not sure however how you interpret the Koran with respect to nonbelievers. Clearly they are so vile that they're going to suffer an eternity of torment and punishment for their nonbelief. It's really hard to make peace and dialogue with people who are judged by the creator of the universe to be worthy of hell.”

My Reply:

I don't think it’s hard to make peace with anyone as long as they are peace loving. They can believe what they want, and everyone goes on with their life. What the consequences for disbelief in the next life are is clearly stated, yes. That doesn't stop Muslims from peace treaties or dialogue, and we have had a lot of the former in the past and have a lot of the latter today and in the past there was also dialogue, as proven by hadiths and Islamic history, letters which were sent between nations and so on.

Monday, April 8, 2013

“Burn a Quran” is Islamic Duty? (Re: David Wood’s lies)

“And we did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in, then Allah makes precise His verses. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.”

(Ch: 22, V: 52, The Qur’an)

Ibn Omar

When Ibn Omar said, “much of the Quran has been lost”, he was speaking about the deaths of the people who used to memorize Quran and teach it. (Remember this!) The Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, foretold that the Quran would be taken away. Then heedlessness of religion and God would prevail and the earth would contain only evil people. The Muslims would be touched by a cool wind which would afflict them and they would die, leaving only non-believers. That the Muslim scholars, as well as memorizers would die, and less of them would remain is one of the minor signs of the Day of Judgment - which may happen any time after the Prophet and has already happened in the past and will continue to happen until the Quran is forgotten. We don’t know when the major signs of the Hour will all come to pass, but when the sun rises from the West and not from the East, such as could happen if the Earth were jolted with great force or whatever might happen to cause that, that will be one of the final signs of the Day of Judgment. (When there was a great Tsunami in Indonesia in 2010, the earth was jolted from its axis 1 cm.) Indeed Allah causes the sun to rise in the East, as Abraham in the Quran told Pharaoh, Allah makes the sun rise in the East therefore can you (Pharaoh) make it rise in the West? Or he said something similar to that, which is in the story of Abraham’s message to the Pharaoh of his time. The point is that the Quran has not been lost, nor any part of it has been lost; the hadith in which Ibn Omar says “much of the Quran has been lost” is speaking to the fact that scholars will die; without the scholars and only ignorant people to interpret the verses, the vast majority of the interpretation will disappear. He was not suggesting at the time however that the vast majority of Muslims in his day were ignorant, they were not, but some of the important scholars or memorizers of his day had passed on. Ibn Omar’s time was characterized by a lot of learning, not ignorance, so the hadith only highlights the fact that Muslims in all eras and times, even until today, took to heart the words of the Prophet Muhammad and also feared that ignorant people would outnumber the educated ones and that the preeminent scholars would die. Muslims feared also that Islam would decline in good people and power which stems from Godliness, which later happened with the decline of the Islamic Empire.

The Prophet foretold that the Qur’an would be taken away by the death of scholars and also that people would recite the Qur’an but the recitation wouldn’t reach their throats, meaning they would not be rewarded for their recitation( because they were insincere to Allah or they don’t practice Islam like Muslims who read Qur’an should).

Another hadith tells that in the future there will be Muslims who will recite the Qur’an but they will do it for show; this is a supporting proof that “much of the Quran has been lost” doesn’t mean whole verses or chapters were lost or that the Community of Muslims had forgotten parts of the Quran. This supporting evidence rather suggests insincerity or arrogance will arise. Despite the gloom, there have always been reliable people who memorized and taught the Quran, as well as scholars of tafsir and hadiths, and scholars of all other important areas of study (Usool Fiqh, Islamic Jurisprudence, and also Arabic studies). There are 100,000s of Hafadh Quran today. Just one family, can have several members who are Hafadh; we see this often in the Middle East and Africa alone.

The Quran itself states that it cannot be attacked from in front or from behind; it is protected by the Almighty, it is complete and free from errors. The Mother of the Book contains the Quran; the Quran is with Allah, in the “preserved tablet” (al–laugh al-Mahfudh). From the Mother of the Book, the Quran was revealed piecemeal to Muhammad, pbuh. Knowledge of the Quran on earth is also protected by Allah until such time as He will take it away. There has been no death of scholars en-masse – the final days, this may include also the removal of all books which have Quran and the tafsir; whether the Prophet foretold the “removal” of scholars, students of Islam, and the actual books of tafsir (explanation and interpretation) or any other present-day sources of knowledge, Allah knows best.

“But the ones who strove against Our verses, [seeking] to cause failure – those are the companions of Hellfire.

(Ch: 22, V: 51, The Quran)

Book burning

To compare what Muslims do with the Qur’an, even to burn some loose pages of the Quran, or to bury it in the ground to prevent anything evil happening to the excess copies or old torn copies of the Quran which believers must take care to keep from defilement, therefore Muslims sometimes have to bury or otherwise protect these copies, or worn out books or pieces of Quran and other books containing Quranic verses, or also Arabic writing which should not be thrown in the garbage, which may contain the names of Prophets, or any Arabic writing, which according to scholars should not be thrown in the trash, is not similar to what the non-Muslims intend when they decide to have “Burn a Quran Day”. Even Arabic newspapers are preferably burned or buried in clean ground free of filth. For the non-Muslim to laughingly say that the Muslims had burned their Qur’ans is stupidity. Muslims do not burn copies of the Qur’an; they bury excess numbers of unused Qurans. Muslims don’t burn the Holy Book, they do sometimes burn loose pages of the Quran so those will not be lost or defiled. This is what I have understood on the subject.

It seems, the non-Muslim David Wood and his cohorts prefer time-wasting activities in front of the camera, such as “randomly” picking up Islamic texts and misinterpreting them in a charade for their equally idiotic audiences (the people who enjoy such fare) instead of studying them, and others (like I) can use their material and videos to put their false interpretations under fire in blog posts. David Wood is like a misbehaving little boy - he behaves childishly and is predictably easy to counter yet equally annoying. I would like in all honesty for him to have that grin wiped off his face, maybe if he reads this - that might do it. But often evangelical Christians are blind to their own follies. They cannot see Truth even if it hits them in the face.

Deeds are judged by the intention

The Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, said, “inna al aamalu bi niyaat, wa inna li kulli imri in ma nawa, fa man kana hijra atuhu lillahi wa rasooli, fa hijra atuhu lillahi wa rasooli, wa man kana hijra atuhu li dunya li yusibuha, aw li imra atin, li yan kihuha, fa hijra atuhu li ma hajaru ilay” which translated means,

“Verily, the deeds are by the intention, and each one shall have that which he intended. He whose migration was for Allah and His Messenger, his migration was for Allah and His Messenger, and he whose migration was for some worldly benefit, or to take some woman in marriage, his migration was for that for which he intended.”

Similarly, Muslims intend no evil by burying copies of the Quran, or burning pieces of writing which contain Quranic verses, or similar actions. It is the non-believers intention to defile the words of Allah, or to cause pain to Muslims by their actions, which they claim are freedom of expression or freedom of speech, therefore they are responsible for their actions and do not the least harm to Islam or Muslims. Allah is not in need of their worship and His Kingdom is not any less because of their refusal of Islam, or because of their evil actions. Glory to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.

Let the early Muslims speak

David Wood and also his Arab friend do not “Read to understand” and often they seem incapable of understanding plain English (a translation of the original, which suffices for this example will follow).

“Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Qur’an, for how does he know that it is all?

Much of the Quran has been lost. Thus let him say, I have acquired what is available.”

David Wood misrepresents what Ibn Omar says (above) as recorded by As-Suyuti. Next, is the source which he used to “show” that the Quran is missing two chapters - a claim which is not supported by the source he cites, yet he believes that it is?

We have to wonder, when did this happen (what was the context)? Was it before or after the collection of all the pieces of the Quran into a Book? Many of the grand reciters of Quran had died prior to and during Caliph Omar’s time therefore Uthman, RA during his Caliphate, ordered the holders of Qur’anic copies (chapters or verses) or fragments, and the best reciters to come and he made an official copy of the Qur’an. Then, Uthman ordered that the other copies or fragments (verses on palm leaf, bone, etc.) be burned, (this was done) so that there would be no original sources “floating” about which could later be changed or lost. He ordered that five copies of the first Quran (mushaf) be made and distributed them to parts of the Islamic Kingdom. Since then, the Qur’an (in book form) has been preserved and other copies were always made from the original and the five copies until they numbered in the thousands and today Quran numbers in the millions. The Quran has been checked every time it is printed for accuracy, there are no typos, printing errors in the Arabic Quran. This might not be the case for copies of Tafseer (Arabic with English or other language explanation) which do not face the same stringent process as the printing of Qurans (in Saudi Arabia), but are very reliable, nonetheless.

Because many reciters died during battles or due to illness or old age, also, the younger generation of Muslims who followed didn’t have their teachers to acquire more knowledge of the Quran from, specifically the exegesis; explanation of the verses. Therefore, when Ibn Umar tells the Muslim, “for how does he know that it is all?” means that, if his memory fails or if he had already forgotten, (which happens to everyone at some time, except very exceptional people). But that would mean maybe (he had lost) a verse here or there, or even a chapter, here or there (I will explain more about the “two chapters” David Wood says are “missing” from the Qur’an), not “much of the Qur’an”. In actuality, what the hadith tells us is that the younger generation of Muslims could no longer ask their scholars what the explanation of the verses (or hadiths, and other areas of knowledge, also) were, because they had died and taken that knowledge with them. The knowledge which some students had was often less than what their scholars had to teach of knowledge (“Thus, let him say I have acquired what is available.”) But that was not always the case. Find out why, next paragraph.

Why Qur’an is not lost

It happened in early Islamic history that some of the students of Islam excelled their teachers and even became more learned and prominent than their scholars. So there is no danger that what brother David and others suggest e.g. that the Quran is missing verses or even one word. Nor is it true that the knowledge of tafsir, the correct meaning of the Qur’an was lost.

E.g. Imam Ahmed excelled his teachers, he memorized 1,000,000 hadiths and compiled in his “Musnad Ibn Hanbal”, 28,000 – 29,000 Prophetic hadiths.

Imam Malik (born 93 or 94 AH) studied under 900 professors and taught Imam Ash-Shafi’i (150 AH – 204 AH)

Abu Da’ud (born 202 AH) studied under Imam Ahmed along with Al-Bukhari and taught many of the later hadiths scholars, e.g. At-Tirmidhi and An-Nasa’i.

All of the Islamic scholars also had to be memorizers of the Quran. Studies in Islamic law, or Hadith methodology had prerequisites; much like studying at Princeton has a tough application process and/or stringent academic requirements and prerequisites today.

Al-Bukhari the most famous Hadiths scholar of all time, said about ‘Ali bin Al-Madini (whom most ordinary Muslims have never heard of), “I never belittled myself before anyone else except before ‘Ali Al-Madini” (died 234 AH). He was the Hafiz of his time and the exemplary of Ahl Al-Ahadith (the scholars of the hadith), according to the biography of him found in the book compiled by Al Hafiz Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani, from which I often quote (Bulugh Al-Marram is a textbook; said to be written by Muhammad bin Ismail As-Sanani). Al-Madini was not the student of Al-Bukhari, but was his teacher! What does this say about the excellence of Al-Bukhari in terms of his learning? And what does it say about his prof?

Definitely, Uthman, RA, made a book form of the Qur’an which was checked against the best reciters, and there is no doubt that it was in complete form. The Qur’an we have today is the same as the first Qur’an. (God knows best, and I will explain further on about why some Qurans may have fewer chapters but still the same wording). The fact that Muslims have always been eager to study the Quran, the tafsir, and hadiths and to pass on the knowledge as it originated is enough for us to trust in the accuracy of what is in the Quran, and in most of what are the major hadiths collections; as far as accuracy, the second most reliable and authentic book after the Quran being Saheeh Al – Bukhari.

Hadiths

The Saheeh Al-Bukhari is the most accurate hadiths collection; Sahih Muslim follows it in correctness, and so on. The major hadiths scholars or some of them, developed a system by which the traditions could be graded, so that each hadith has a chain or narrators, and each hadith is recorded in the same wording, or different wordings, (slight variations in wording or meanings are usually one of the complaints of some critics) depending on who narrated from who in a chain to the Prophet himself. The chain, the reliability of the narrators, and the wording all reflect the level of accuracy, the source and the general trustworthiness, or if the opposite, the unworthiness of what was said or transmitted. What non-Muslims sometimes fail to understand is that when we say that Sahih Bukhari is the most accurate and authentic book after the Holy Quran, we are not saying that there are definitely no errors, or that it is divinely inspired. Firstly, one should examine the text itself. Imam Bukhari heard many hadiths and included them in his books (collection), while he rejected other hadiths; his hadiths collection may therefore be smaller than some others, or doesn’t include many of the hadiths which other collections included, e.g. Al Muwatta or Al Musnad. Secondly, the Sahih traditions are accurate as to the details about their source, the chain of narrators and what was said, but that doesn’t suggest in any way that a hadith graded “weak” or “unreliable” is something which is truthful as to the (intended) meaning e.g. what the hadith (or narrator) suggests might never have happened or is misleading or wrong. That should be self-evident, but apparently many people do not know what the purpose of a “grading system” is. E.g. it’s not enough to say that a hadith is from Sahih Bukhari, it could be Sahih (strong), or it could be Mursal (missing a person in the chain) or Daif (weak). One should also keep in mind that many narrations which we mistakenly call Hadiths are actually referred to in Arabic as “Athar” (were not inspired as the words of the Prophet would be - which are often part of a longer narration or the Prophet’s explanation of a verse in the Qur’an (a hadith being his own story or a description of what he had said or done which recalls his (exact) words. Some people therefore deceive their audience by saying a narration is a (Prophetic) hadith; or that a hadith is “Sahih”, but rather it is only found in a Sahih collection and can even be mursal/daif/wahin.

There are hadiths which are “mansukh”, which means abrogated; similar to verses which are abrogated, these hadiths are known, but there is no validity of using such for any verdicts. When slavery was disallowed (it was not the practice of the Prophet, pbuh, to take free men as slaves) especially after the Islamic government was established in Medina, therefore hadiths about slavery insisted on good treatment of slaves, and moreover freeing of slaves was highly encouraged.

There are hadiths which are (commonly) known to be false, or weak. These hadiths may be included in the major collections, but the reader knows that they are false or weak and are not hadiths which were/are used by scholars in the early generations/ or today, to make fatawas. No Islamic judgment contains wisdom based on a false or weak hadith. Judgments or fatawas may cite a “weak” hadith if there is no other hadith on the subject, but Quran must first be consulted; if the weak hadith contradicts anything in the Quran it is not used as supporting evidence. An example is the hadith about the menstrual blood which remains on clothing. Because there is nothing in the hadiths on the subject except one hadith (which is daif - a weak hadith) this may be cited in the judgment that women can dress and pray in clothing which has been properly washed according to what we know from the hadith which mentions the method of washing and also, that one may then pray in it and there is no harm.

What does the Quran mention about the subject?

This is because the Quran says, “There is no difficulty in religion” and Muslims take this to mean that anything which would make the religion difficult to practice would not be an important consideration; one should do what is easier for him/her. Thus, people who are sick are exempt from fasting and may make up days later, or if they cannot, may feed a poor for every day missed, for example. As well, when there is a choice between two permissible actions, one may take the easier road, is what is meant, as Aisha, RA, told us, when there were two options, and they were both permissible, the Prophet liked to take the easier option or he encouraged others also to take the easier option. He also warned the Muslims not to make the prayers too long, because that might cause some people to dislike the prayer. There are many examples which could be given, but I will let these suffice for lack of time.

- Fasting can be cut short if one is travelling, or beginning a journey and wishes to break his fast, as it was a practice of the Prophet, although he didn’t always take this option.

- One shortens the prayers, and it is considered preferable during journeys. One may also join the prayers, but it is not required. Aisha, RA, used to not join her prayers during travels because she said, “it is not difficult for me” (it was easy for her to do her prayers in the fixed times for prayers as one who is not travelling).

- The sick or invalid person may pray sitting, or lying or by gesticulating if not able to perform the proper movements at all. Even paralyzed people who have their faculties (they understand) perform the prayers, although someone should make wudhu for them (purification for prayer with water), or if they are partially paralyzed they can make tayammum, if that is easier (purification by using some clean earth).

- Muslims living in a land of the non-Muslims can eat from their utensils, but it is better if they can eat from their own utensils; it is allowed “…do not eat in theirs, but if you cannot get other than theirs, wash them and eat in them.” (Agreed Upon)

Second Argument is also flawed

“Ubayy was the best of us in the recitation (of the Quran), yet we leave some of what he recites. Ubayy says I have learned it from the mouth of Allah’s Messenger and will not leave it for anything whatever.”

Sahih Bukhari (6.61.527)

(I cite the hadith according to David’s account, which probably is correct as to wording, but I haven’t checked the reference. Notice, it doesn’t mention if the hadith is Sahih, Mursal, Daif, or of another grade).

It means that these people who knew Ubayy were praising him because he recites the Quran best and he also applies what he has learned of Quran and ilm (knowledge). 1) They do not say that he had forgotten the Quran, nor do they say that he doesn’t apply it 2) but they admit that they do not apply what he does of the Quran. What exactly they are referring to is not mentioned here; it could be anything, such as additional acts of worship, etc. Without knowledge of the actual context, we don’t know (about the details) except that he is a praiseworthy person and “practices what he preaches.” We would have to know more to know definitely what is being stressed. But I will tell you what the context really is, probably you can guess if you read back. An alternate (accurate) interpretation might be that people did not recite as Ubay recited, yet his recitation was not disliked or wrong. Likewise, their recitation was not disliked or wrong.

It is possible that many people after the Prophet forgot a large part of what they had learned of the Qur’an (e.g. a chapter); either the recitation or the tafsir or both. That doesn’t support the idea that all the people forgot and didn’t teach the next generation of Muslims. There is no evidence whatsoever for this anywhere.

This “expert” happily admits to the audience that “[Ubayy] was the best reciter of the Quran”.

His friend Nabil asks, “Wasn’t Ubayy the best reciter of the Qur’an?”

David: “He was”, grinning broadly.

(He has done his homework)

Next Nabil asks, “Wasn’t he the fourth best teacher of the Quran?”

David: “He was”, pumping his arm and exalting.

(He has done his homework)

He brings us the authentic sources, so that we can check them later. Unfortunately, for him and his listeners, he doesn’t seem able to understand his own mother tongue! But don’t believe me, judge for yourself. Visit David Wood’s own channel, see for yourself. I also have his and many similar videos and much more for viewers on my YouTube TM channel, either in the playlists or in uploads (only six uploads).

David reads

“We used to recite a sura which resembled in length and severity to sura Bara’at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: ‘If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of Adam but dust.’ And we used to recite a sura which resembled Musabbihat, but I have forgotten it.”

(Sahih Muslim 2286)

Yes, as Allah, SWT, says, the son of Adam forgets, and that is why the root of the word Insan (humankind) means, forgetful. Allah created humans “forgetful”; that is a characteristic of all humans. The Arabic word, Ins means forgetful and describes humankind.

“So this is saying that two chapters of the Qur’an are missing!” exalts David.

Nabil says, “Your right…!”

But when I read it, as you can do - just look above in the block writing below “David reads”, I didn’t understand that at all. How does he get the idea that two chapters of the Quran are missing from the hadith above? He didn’t, it is just that he is LYING = DAVID IS A LIAR. If you know David like I think I know him, you would not be surprised.

LYING = DAVID IS A LIAR (Or a moron)

One person says he has forgotten ‘this and this’ from the Qur’an and David deduces from this that the Quran is missing two chapters??

Why not half of the Quran??

Oh because, the speaker says “I have... forgotten [two suras or almost two suras]”. This means that they were ‘removed’ from the Quran?? We know that is not what was said, nor what is written above. David, is your mother tongue English? Or maybe it isn’t? What IS your mother tongue then?

I have to explain something here, which is that the Quran is “an Arabic Quran” - as one verse of the Quran reads, “Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur’an that you might understand” (Chapter 12, Verse 2) I don’t judge the Christian for trying to learn more about the history of the Quran and Islamic history, but I do judge him for trying to teach Muslims their own religion; The Quran is in Arabic, so we ask the Arab-speakers for explanation of the verses, etc. The hadiths also are in Arabic but we study them, oftentimes, in English. There is no harm studying in English or another language as long as we ask those who know. But I do take great offence at David Wood’s method of preaching. He is not only dishonest, or illiterate or both, but his attitude is reprehensible. Muslims have a great religion, which they have a right to be proud of - he expresses his hatred of that which he has not the least idea about. Then he makes a jackass of himself by misrepresenting the meaning of verses or hadiths, and on top of that doesn’t even understand the English! (Nabil is a parrot and doesn’t give off a vibe that says “trust me”, but no doubt many people will believe anything he says because he is an Arab and a Christian, which distracts the readers from what is really happening.)

What does this mean?

“Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Qur’an, for how does he know that it is all?

Much of the Quran has been lost. Thus let him say, I have acquired what is available.”

I explained most of this hadith earlier, but would like to add one comment.

It is well known to Muslims that the early Muslims were devout Muslims and the best people of the Ummah, generally. Their piety exceeded our piety, and their knowledge exceeded the knowledge of the most knowledgeable among us today, generally.

Thus we believe that the majority of the early first three generations of Muslims were exceptional Muslims and deserve our praises, may Allah be pleased with them all. That being said, and on the subject of piety, I ask, wouldn’t such people be modest and good? Wouldn’t they speak the truth, and wouldn’t they fear to exaggerate or praise themselves for fear of committing sin? Yes, I think so. But they carried the religion and were adept at acquiring knowledge. Some praised others and others praised the ones who praised them.

Today, we might say,

“I have acquired what I was capable of”, for example. One can still find a few individuals whose knowledge (and memorization) in hadiths, for example, is remarkable, but they are fewer than in the past.

It is possible, that when a Muslim is hafadh (has committed the Quran to memory) that he might sometimes forget some of it, and needs to revise in order not to forget. The Prophet, Muhammad, pbuh, explained that “The Quran slips away like a horse when it is not securely tied” or as was said by him, pbuh. It means that it is easily forgotten if not revised. This is why it is a recommended act to continually revise the verses and chapters of Quran one has memorized on a daily basis. We also believe that it is a sin to forget what one has memorized of the Quran.

As with his previous statements about Aisha, that she called someone a liar (a person which Omar had warned about how he speaks), David attempts to throw a bad light on Zayd ibn Thabit and also the ones who are the subject of the hadith.

“The people have been guilty of deceit in the reading of the Qur’an. I like it better to read according to the way of him whom I love (I.e. Muhammad) more than that of Zayd ibn Thabit”

Ibn Sa’d, Kitab al Tabaqat al-Kabir, vol.2, p.444.


The fact that immediately the narrator (I’m led to believe it is Ibn Masud) as recorded by Ibn Sa’d, says, “I like it better”, as opposed to a stronger condemnation following the previous word “deceit” suggests that the word “deceit” itself is out of place in the context of the hadith. We should therefore understand that he preferred his reading to the others’ reading because that was how he had learned it from the Prophet, pbuh. He calls the Prophet, “him whom I love”, which is natural, and that doesn’t mean that he didn’t also love the companion of the Prophet, Zayd ibn Thabit, because he did. The prophet Muhammad loved Zayd and also had told others to love the ones whom he loves.

As with the wording of Aisha, there is some question as to what was the intention of the word “deceit” in this hadith, and what was the intention of Aisha when she called a person a “liar”. In either case, we can take the hadith ‘with a grain of salt’; we can say that maybe we don’t know exactly what was intended in each case.

What we do understand is that there are slight variations only between some of the qiraat and the others. Some qiraat only differ from others in one or two words (pronunciation is meant), some in one phrase only, such as the above example. The reason for this is easier explained in looking at the Arabic. Qirras also means “dialects”. (I will show what David actually reveals about the authenticity of the Qur’an, so don’t miss the end of this post and Part Two (“hang in there”).

Clarification needed

Sometimes during recitation, one has to repeat part of a verse, because it will not be grammatically correct if one doesn’t do that. One has the choice to stop in a certain place, or to keep reading as well. So there are different ways of reading which do not change the meaning, but actually preserve the meaning. Either way is correct (to stop or to keep reading) and this also demonstrates why Muslims should study Tajweed (recitation). If one stops in the wrong place, or forgets to read part of the verse again the way was done by the Prophet, pbuh, then it is not correct in its meaning. Some verses, if read without proper Tajweed (rules for recitation) may be the opposite in meaning to what is intended when read properly.

Ten different Qiraat – 7 major ones

There are seven main styles (qiraat) and in total 10 styles (qiraat); which were demonstrated by the Prophet, these have only slight differences including the dialects of the different tribes at the time of the early Muslims.

One easy example is of the word in Sura Yusuf (Chapter 12, The Quran),

The phrase, “Yusuf ignore this” is a good example because it is more common to find words that are very different sounding (comparing) pronunciation in Qiraat “warsh” (than from one Qiraat to another of the other dialects). In Qiraat “warsh” this happens with the alif, and other letters, e.g. ya, it is pronounced very differently than in any other (or in few others) of the Arabic dialects. (“Soosi” is another dialect, but I don’t have much knowledge of it, except that it is obviously Arabic, and one can easily follow the recitation with any (Arabic) Qur’an. I have one video of “Sura Yusuf” recited in Soosi on my channel.

Sura: 12, Verse: 29, “Yusuf ignore this”.

As well, an example in the same Sura to demonstrate what is meant about the Tajweed, rules of recitation, follows,

“Akrimi mathwa” is read twice, but appears only once in the verse. It means “Make his residence comfortable”.

“And the one from Egypt who bought him said to his wife, “Make his residence comfortable. Perhaps he will benefit us, or we will adopt him as a son.” (Chapter 12, Verse 21)

It can be understood therefore, that the King (e.g. “the one from Egypt who bought him”) told his wife to “Make his [Yusuf’s] residence comfortable.” And then his first statement is repeated in the actual conversation to his wife which continues, e.g. “Make his residence comfortable [(because) perhaps] he will benefit us, or we will adopt him as a son.” But the verse always appears as in the (direct quote) above.

There are many similar instances in the Quran and it is due to the rules of Tajweed that we know how to read them properly, or also by learning by ear and memorizing. To a person who doesn’t know Arabic and who doesn’t read Quran this might seem like a difficult issue but it really isn’t. It takes time to learn how to read properly, however, if one is interested in learning Tajweed.

I just would add that unfortunately, I lack many resources which some other people with websites have, and also many of the resources which non-Muslims have which they use to fight Islam. But I hope my blog can grow and also help dispel myths about Islam and the Quran, God willing.

(I asked readers to remember what I said about the Qur’an being “lost”)

David Wood concludes that when Abu Bakr, the first Caliph, sent many reciters of Qur’an into the battle and they died, “much of the Qur’an was lost”. In his own words, he admits that the death of the reciters equals the loss of the Qur’an. He is not able to prove that verses are lost or missing (from the “books of Qur’an”) in fact he says the opposite of that and his ‘proofs’ show that the Qur’an today is the same as the original.

You can look forward to Part Two for more, next.