Showing posts with label Sufi. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sufi. Show all posts

Monday, December 9, 2013

The Confusion of the Confusion

Remembering  days in history when ppl loved discourse more than the air that they breathed; in memory of the Muslim philosophers, whom all contemplated the great questions of their time, the nature of God, the nature of the soul, whether they were right or wrong, Muslim or Kafir, all studied and learned in Cordoba and pondered the great mysteries. I dedicate this post to modern day scholars who care about truth. DD

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I wanted to call this "the Refutation of the Refutation" but that's already been taken. #Ghazali #Ibn Sina #Ibn Rushd #Cordoba #The Refutation of the Refutation are more labels ppl could try searching.
I wrote and posted three posts yesterday in response to comments I had entertained. So today, I’m posting this explanation of who are the true Muslims, vis a vis a discussion about the meaning of the word Salafist, “Salafi” in Arabic, or the word “Wahhabi” and what it really means. This is an issue which is of paramount concern to me; because it is something I consider a part of the propaganda against Islam and Muslims, particularly Sunni Islam and its adherents, especially those in the Arabian Peninsula.

Just a brief description of both words, the way that Sunni Muslims generally think of the words in the original Arabic – this doesn’t include the opinion of many people who believe wrongly that Salafi is a “bad word”. It is a word we often use so it is important to explain what it does mean.

Salafi – someone who follows the original teachings of Muhammad, pbuh, the Holy Prophet of Islam, and which the following three or four generations of Muslims also followed or preached. The Sahabi (companions of Muhammad, May Allah grant them peace and blessings, and the Tabai’i, the following generation of Muslims who never met the holy Prophet, but had met the Sahabi, and so on). These we consider the proper examples of pious and good people of their day, who we try to emulate in word and deed.

Wahhabi – this is a new label, used very recently, beginning a few years back, which non-Muslims use to mean the Sunnis in Saudi Arabia whom they believe are preaching hate. I’d like to note that Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab, was a scholar who preached Islamic monotheism and was largely concerned with teaching the people in his generation in the place he practiced, not to worship the Taghut (idols) or to do unislamic things, such as following the traditions of other people or religions in their country, which were not sanctioned by Islamic teachings and traditions. He was sometimes opposed by the rulers or other people who didn’t want him to preach, this is why some even called him a “kafir”. His little book Kitab atTauhid is one of the best written on the subject of Islamic monotheism, which contains advice about avoiding shirk (polytheism) and disbelief. He was the most concerned about teaching the common and ignorant people about their religion because many evils had entered into the people’s religious practices or had become a part of their daily lives. The book is a collection of the important hadiths, which are taught in all Islamic studies courses at University level in the past AND even up until today but is very simple and straightforward so that anyone can grasp the concepts and meanings easily. It is one of the easiest and best books recommended for a basic understanding of Islamic creed or monotheism.

Question –

Are Muslims now supposed to change their usage of the word “salafi” to match the current and very negative interpretation, just to avoid being labeled “evil”? Shouldn’t it be the non-Muslims who learn the Arabic meaning of “salafi” and stop using that when they are referring to “extremists”?? Even the word “fundamentalist” has been engineered to be a bad thing. So, we don’t use that word much to refer to “pious” and “good” people, or “believers” of a faith, because it now usually is used in the most negative way to mean someone “extremist”. In the past “fundamentalist” only was a word to mean a person who is adhering to the basics of his religion.

One asks, why is this need for “labeling” others with names they don’t approve? There is no Muslim on earth who calls himself/herself a “Wahhabi” > this word is a new label we don’t accept. And the word “salafi” is still commonly used by Muslims, it is an Islamic terminology. It isn’t right for others to usurp the word for their own purposes; which has always meant someone who follows the original teachings of Muhammad, pbuh. (I already gave a more comprehensive definition above.)

I ask all honest people to not use “salafi” or “Wahhabi” to refer to Muslims or Saudi Arabian people in a negative way. Wahhabi itself is wrong, and a misnomer. Muslims never use it to refer to themselves, and it is a label used “against” them. And “salafi” should be used by English speakers to mean someone who is “Sunni”, as that is what it intends, really. While Sufi Muslims accept the word “sufi” general Muslims don’t accept the word “Wahhabi” and they DO NOT use “Salafi” to mean a person who is an “extremist” in any way, who is not following his religion properly but has extremist views. Likewise, the word “Salafist” is another label, from the same root, but a NEW word in the vocabulary of non-Muslims who use it to mean an extremist from Saudi Arabia or an extremist who follows the path of extremism which they believe (wrongly) is a way of life for many in Saudi Arabia – the only Islam practiced in Saudi Arabia (not speaking of Shias, who also live in Arabia and are a small minority in Saudi Arabia) is mainstream Islam. It means they also abide by the Sharia in their own country. There is no imposing their religion or culture on others, except if one is in the kingdom, then one must abide by the sharia, in his dress or outward appearances and worship (if he is a Muslim in Mecca, for example)and not to do or say things which contravene the Sharia. For example, there is a blasphemy law in Saudi Arabia, much as there are laws against treason in America, or something equivalent.

The rest of the post is a repeat of what I had posted previously, last week.

There is a common misconception today, that Muslims are not also Salafis. This labeling the majority of Sunnis as "Salafists" or "Wahhabis" is starting to border on hate speech, so I have to clear something up now. Firstly, Sunnis and Sufis all call themselves Muslims, and hardly do they get into discussions about their differences, except as an educational exercise. We are very united in our views and aspirations, but appear to be disunited; the media perpetrates the appearance of great schisms, which don't really exist (or result in disunity) among Muslims in their daily relationships with each other.

Secondly, just as people find Sufis loveable, so are the general Muslims loveable. They are not murderers, bigots, rapists, haters; they are people with religious convictions and beliefs, which reflect their upbringing and also their love of God Almighty and Muhammad, and Islam. Their goal in life isn’t to cause others pain and suffering. They are just as kind and compassionate as anybody else. I really resent these labels, which America and the media are attaching to Sunni Muslims.

All Muslims call themselves Muslims, and don’t believe they need any labels apart from that to be counted among the true believers. Some words, such as “Hanbali” or “Maaliki” denote the school of thought a person might adhere to in his daily practice and way of worship, such that his hands are placed a certain way, or he makes certain specific actions in the prayer, which other Sunnis who are not from the same school, or raised in the same country or region where he would have learned the same traditions don’t do, but which are all based on Islamic traditions found in the books, such as Sahih Bukhari or Sahih Muslim, and others. When someone has studied under a scholar he may change the way he practices in some small ways, which might reflect more closely how the Prophet did things, compared to many others who have learned Islam from their parents or an older sibling or their cousins. None of this is dangerous or removes one out of the fold of Islam. Most common people don’t know about the finer points or the discussions which are held in classrooms as intellectual exercises, or to discover which traditions match more closely with what the early Muslims did, who we call in Islamic terminology, “the salaf”. (If you understand what “the salaf” means, then you should be careful of using the term “salafi” to refer to bad or evil Muslims who you fear are the enemy, because they don’t exist~!! There is no evil “salafi” because a “salafi” person is one who tries his best to be a Muslim in the tradition of the earliest Muslims, who are all our best examples.

Non-Muslims and especially the media want to “label” many of the Muslims as terrorists, and using the label Salafi for Muslims as though they are evil, and as though the word “Salafi” means something which it doesn’t - or a bad person, or a bad “cult” (which it really doesn’t in the original usage) Salafi is just another way to say a person who follows the way of the Prophet Muhammad and the early generations of Muslims.

If someone is afraid of Muslims in general, without good reason, then he is an Islamophobe, and there is little hope he will learn the truth of Islam and what Muslims really believe. But if someone is just confused by labels, they should try to discover the truth about Islam and Muslims by reading or going to proper Islamic websites, and ask a Muslim about their concerns. I for one am willing to entertain anyone who is sincere about learning more about any issue related to Islam and Muslims. If I can give evidence or at least tell my personal beliefs, which I can say are the mainstream, then I’m happy to oblige. I don’t insist someone has to become a Muslim. I am not preaching Islam to convert people, though that would please me, but I am really more interested in explaining the true meaning of Islam and teaching others about what I really believe. Islam is not “of the devil” or a strange “cult”; it is a “religion” in the truest and best sense of the word.



Sunday, December 8, 2013

Little Red & Peace & Love - Part 3

Zaha S Asks:

Yesterday 12:15 AM
What exactly am I being ignorant about?


tvee, wrote 

Yesterday 10:15 PM

"+Jane Dughatir I'll be the first to tell you I don't have an in-depth understanding of Islam, let alone the basics. From reading your comments here, I would rather learn about Islam and appreciate it from Zaha S rather than you. At least I'll certainly be guaranteed of a rational, objective and intelligent discussion on Islamic teachings and issues faced by Muslims. I doubt that's probable with you! Are you truly knowledgeable about Islamic teachings? Perhaps. Are you an arrogant person? Yes. Are you objective and possess some intelligence? Absolutely….. NOT! That's just my opinion. U are so stupid, you can't even process the meaning of words in your hollow head. Where in my comment did I say sufis are 'kind'? I mentioned the words 'gentle', 'compassionate', 'love, 'peace' 'tolerance' and 'universal brotherhood'. I'm not a genius but please only reply back to me if you have an IQ equal to or higher than my 128. It's utterly frustrating trying to communicate with stupid AND arrogant people!"

Besides the redundancy, it is a load of b.s . Is he serious?? Oh I believe him, I just think it is full of “righteous indignation” at being “insulted” (my words: righteous indignation is the belief that you have the right to be angry [or indignant] even though others don’t agree.). In this case, I don’t agree that he has a right to be indignant, angry or sad; he should be embarrassed for behaving childishly - however, if he is sad that he doesn’t understand Islam properly, then good.

“I’ll be the first to tell you I don’t have an in-depth understanding of Islam, let alone the basics.” …etc…

He admits ignorance, totally…BUT…

[And] “Perhaps. Are you an arrogant person? Yes. Are you objective and possess some intelligence? Absolutely….. NOT! That's just my opinion. U are so stupid, you can't even process the meaning of words in your hollow head. Where in my comment did I say sufis are 'kind'? I mentioned the words 'gentle', 'compassionate', 'love, 'peace' 'tolerance'”

Ha-ha. It is so sad, it is tragically funny. I really wish he has a chance to reflect after cooling down. BUT, the ball is in his court, he can do that or not.

I have one line of questioning:

If he admires the sufis so much, he should really try much harder to become like them. I don’t think a Sufi would take someone to task just for saying someone different than them said another person is “nice” and misquoted him when he really said “gentle, compassionate, love peace tolerance,”!!

Then he expects me to believe he is a good person and I am mistreating him and have been arrogant?? Yes, I am telling you what Islam really is, according to what I believe and have studied for years, both on my own and in a real classroom in a University setting. Don’t insult MY intelligence. I’m glad I never claimed to have the IQ of a genius just to “score points”. I don’t have to do something that childish and innane, which is also impossible to prove, so totally pointless.



Jane Dughatir

Yesterday 11:05 PM

Since name calling is permissible I did some of my own as that is what he did first (“He did it first” - this is turning into a useless exercise., which is why I ALWAYS say, “Debates are counterproductive to Understanding Islam” unless you really pay attention)

ur the idiot, obviously. So in your dictionary kind and compassionate isn't any thing close to what you described about the sufi person you met?? Are you serious or just being a troll? I wasn't quoting you, should be obvious, I was describing how you explained that you met the nice sufi guy and that it seems you believe all Musilms in your eyes are not equal to the task, of being kind or good people except a sufi or someone like Zaha, who can't defend her own religion's teachings, if she is indeed a Muslims (sic), which I'm not certain of either. Anyone who reads this will consider you an absolute moron. Excuse me if you didn't say kind, lol. You are more arrogant if you think ur ranting is going to fool anybody. I don't care if you believe I'm foolish or arrogant because obviously you have no sense at all!! good day. Unlike you, I do have a basic understanding of Islam at the very least, and unlike you, I don't fall for ignorant ppl's claims e.g. what zaha had said, because she wants to be a weak person who kisses ass of Islamophobes or her non-Muslim friends or family or maybe she is also not even Muslim, I don't know if she is or not. Considering her level of ignorance, I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't even pray, even if she is Muslim. Or know how to pray. I don't care to have any more dialogue with you. so plz don't send another reply defending your position.+tvee with the high IQ which is totally not true, or youre a monkey's uncle.



Jane Dughatir

Yesterday 11:12 PM

where is Zaha? she can't say anything more to defend herself and needs you,

Mr. T?? +tvee



Jane Dughatir

Yesterday 11:29 PM

Just to quote some of what little Zaha S had said previously, "Its apart of a terrible cultural practice in the Middle East I thought that was already established. Yes it is something good because it is my way of life and I see it as beautiful and peaceful and if more people embrace that lifestyle then that makes me happy. What propaganda? I'm still itching my head at your ignorance, I don't think you're an idiot though, just misinformed. There is no such thing as forced Islam and most reverts find Islam on their own. Ask me anything, what did I ignore? I apologize if I ignored anything."

She is scratching her head, after lying about Islam, which the non-Muslim terente P is more knowledgeable about then herself!! Yes, there are beheadings in Saudi Arabia, as a punishment, which still occur now. And in Iran, ppl also are killed; It is strange however, that many women, not as many men, it seems, are killed for sexual crimes there, but how can this be Islamic? There seems to be something else at work besides women being promiscuous, and I wonder what their "crime" really is?? (Slight revision - about Iran - just to make clear that I don’t approve of what happens in Iran, though Iran claims to practice sharia as well. They have a different understanding of Islam than Sunnis, however. I dare say very different in many aspects. I say I don’t approve, but I don’t say I would impose my will on them, and that goes for the sufis and all other groups or branches of Islam or sects. As long as they don’t claim to have rights over me, I don’t have a dispute with them. But if they are hurting their citizens and are extremely unjust, maybe I will comment, and that’s my right, too. December, 8th)

But Zaha (and others) don't deny things that are even written in the papers or seen in public squares in Saudi or Iran. Yes, sharia calls for some criminals to be beheaded or sexual crimes like adultery to be punished with stoning. Anyone who knows anything about Islam knows this. It is a weak Muslim who denies this.
Do Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims, NO. Do Muslims want to hang non-Muslims for having boyfriends and girlfriends in their own country? NO. Do we want to have people in non-Muslim countries who steal punished with the Islamic punishment if they have stolen something equal to twenty bucks, say? NO.

State the real position on Islamic topics, don't make up your own ideas or an entirely different religous point of view (that's not permitted in Islam, ask any educated Muslim). It is wrong to lie about the religion, period. I don't care if you are nice and want friends all over the internet and want non-Muslims to love you, it is non (sic) sanctioned by the religion, to lie about your religion. If you are that ignorant, be quiet, for your own sake!!

Jane Dughatir

Yesterday 11:56 PM

Islam is only right for those willing to accept it, says Zaha S, lol. So its only right for Musilms (sic). We actually believe it is right for everybody, but that doesn't mean other ppl will become Muslim. And that is their own business. But don't say such things, I am afraid your English needs refreshing. I don't blame otherrs (sp)for their poor English but if your English isn't up to par or isn't at a certain level of proficiency, you should watch how you say things and what you say in general, so you are not taken to task for unintended meanings or blatantly wrong ideas.


Zaha S

1:02 AM

I don't think you understood what I was saying. Of course Islam is for everyone, as everyone is born a Muslim. But what I meant is that it should not be forced on anyone. Please refrain from insulting me, I hope you meant well. M3asalama.


Advice for Zaha,

I know what you meant, but you didn’t say that; that’s my point; be careful and revise your mistakes. ["Of course Islam is for everyone, ....", she wrote the next time, which is what she "wanted" to say, but 'somehow' turned it 180 degrees, into an opposite idea !! ] If you make blatant mistakes, such that you apologize for everybody, you are telling them you think it is okay to be whatever they want (according to most, it is okay). It is even their legal right to do and believe what they wish, but it isn’t going to help them in their search for "enlightenment" if You LIE.. Don’t say, Islam isn’t for everybody, it is, so why did you say that in the first place?? Say what you mean… and apologize if you said something incorrect.

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The bigger problem is her lying about Islam. And I have already gone over all that. If you care about ppl then you want to tell them what Islam really teaches, not make up stuff, or pretend you know what you don’t know. People love to get along and not to rock the boat, but that means they also lie about their beliefs just to please others; which is what you seem to be doing. Or you are preaching about Islam without correct knowledge.


Zaha S

1:14 AM

+Jane Dughatir I don't really understand what I'm denying either? It is true what you said about Saudia and Iran I never denied that, what I'm saying is their governments are not Islamic! No country in the world practices Sharia law perfectly. I also mentioned that crimes like those are punishable but not all by death, because at the end of the day you need to forgive just like Allah SWT forgives (of course some things like rape and murder are another story). Thank you for calling someone you don't know a weak Muslim and "little" I really appreciate that. I'm not going to spend my time responding to someone who insults me, especially a fellow Muslim. If you are Muslim yourself you would know that Islam preaches kindness. Once again M3asalama.


J D-N 

2:21 AM

salaam, dear. No, you said the specific crimes that were discussed such as sexual crimes are not punishable and they are. So is stealing. That's in Islam when a country properly practices sharia, which is why even though Saudi and Iran are not perfect models of Islam, they do have such punishments which have always been done in Saudi, following the way of the early Muslims. People read about Islam and books are easy to find, as well as some proper sites on internet. ..."You can't fool everybody all of the time." And you can't fool me. Yes, ma'a salaam. Islam also preaches knowledge of your religion. Even many non-Muslims know Islam better and defend it better than you do.


J D-N

2:47 AM

Well, being that Zaha is a Libyan and American answers a lot, lol. I know many, many Libyans who were ignorant of their religion so much that they would defend the non-Muslim's calendar saying it is better than the very accurate Islamic Hijri calendar, which is based on the phases of the moon. Anything Islamic, they would run away from. So, yes, I get that Zaha, is somewhat afraid of Islam, and doesn't appreciate the need for sharia.

If you prayed in Libya in the mosque regularly you ended up in prison. Yet Ghaddafi claimed he was a defender of Muslim rights, or that's what the west told everyone. So, little Zaha's family moved to the west and raised her as a non hiijab wearing ignorant Muslim, who doesn't have a proper Islamic grounding..and is afraid of Islam's reality, much like non-believers she tries to convince that Islam is not what they read in the hadiths books. But for the most part, it really is. I am not talking about misinterpreted texts, but true Islam as taught in Islamic colleges in the gulf states. These are colleges which accept people who have at minimum a highschool GPA of 70% or higher, and who can learn or read Arabic, who can memorize Quran. Such people who can devote themselves to studying at University level, and who are serious about learning. I'm not speaking of children's Islamic study halls, or musallas. As for those who are "weak" and "afraid" you should Stop! making up lies to defend your religion! Islam doesn't need you to lie for Islam. Islam is good and it is the Truth. #Quran #islam #Muhammad

Why do I say Zaha is “little” , or “weak and afraid” ,because she behaves like a child. She is “weak” in her Islamic knowledge or her practice. Does she wear a hijab? Not in her photo. Should she? Should she post photos of herself (according to the sharia) or should she cover her hair at least?

She isn’t practicing as much as many other Muslim girls or women do. Many also are like her, I know that. It is her responsibility if she knows Islam, to practice it properly. I am not going to judge her here or anytime, but God will. As a Muslim I hope she considers that.

[I wonder if tvee is her brother. He seems to defend her a lot, but he says he is an atheist.
There are many Libyans who were communists, so atheism isn’t a far stretch for them. But that’s enough about that.]



Saturday, December 7, 2013

Islamic Propagation & Why Idiocy and Lying Get Promoted

We all know where babies come from right? If you don't you are not even able to read this blog.
But just being able to read isn't going to get you off the hook with me.



+terente P [his comment follows]:

"Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The quran should be the highest authority in America and islam the only accepted religion on Earth"

Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR...

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The discussion follows a video, "New York on Islam".


+Jane Dughatir The definition of 'kindness' is the quality of being friendly, generous and considerate. If I wanted to use the word I would have. I didn't. It's ok for you to call others ignorant, but when I say you are arrogant and stupid, I become the troll? U need to buy a distortion-free mirror! Now American and Libyans are ignorant Muslims? Seriously??!! Your shoddy reasoning, thinking and interpretation of information needs some serious evaluation. I guess for you, it's your interpretation and brand of Islam or the highway. Anyone who disagrees with your interpretation (Muslim or non-Muslim) is wrong, weak, ignorant… The world is diverse and it will always be that way - diverse nature, cultures, religions, view points/ interpretations, etc. You and your singular, narrow, my way or the highway interpretation is dangerous and THIS is precisely why many non-Muslims have negative views on Islam. You do not help promote Islam, just like fundamentalist Christians don't help promote Christianity. It's a total turn-off!

Yourself and Zaha have disagreed with the majority interpretations, not my own. You yourself asked her to explain whether Islam punishes people for certain crimes, etc., which she avoided answering directly. I agreed with the common perception (and its true there are punishments for such crimes as sexual deviancy etc., in Islam) which is obvious to most ppl, and to +terente P who also commented on this post or similar posts. She is right that most Muslim majority states do not punish for such crimes. She fails to mention that there are such punishments in a true Islamic state. She is tip toeing around the issues.

I don't argue that Saudi isn't a perfect model of Islam however, but is there a perfect model of any system anymore? democracy? or communism? No.

Stop bringing up your silly childish quip about the word "nice".

Do you think Sufis are "not nice" but are also "good Muslims" then? What's your problem exactly? You are not making any sense [or I should say, he didn't address any of my points but is angry about my " " around the word "nice" thus, which is all he can think about, lol.]and anyone with a brain who reads your train of comments would see you have a problem with me and it is now getting to the point that you want it to be personal.

I told you I'm not interested in a dialogue with you because you are not being at all reasonable. I don't think you read my comments to you or you don't understand what I said. You said Sufism is so much better than Sunni Islam. [hope he finally understands that "nice" or whatever else he says promoting sufis, isn't the problem, it is his general attitude that needs an adjustment; who's being arrogant? Certainly it must be "he" and not me..] You see, Salafis are Sunnis, and Wahhabi is just a label attached to Muslims by America and haters, to make it seem as though there are more than one type of Sunni Islam. Labels like "salafists" or "Wahhabis" are to confuse you. Obviously, you are either confused or you are promoting hatred. Labeling people with words they don't accept is hate speech. Changing the meaning of words, such as what is happening when the word "salafi" is used to mean something it isn't e.g. it is used by Islamophobes and the media to mean some evil Muslims or an evil sect. But in the original usage, which goes back to the first century, Salafi meant a person who follows the correct teachings of Islam; the "salafs" were the first generation of Muslims and those that followed them in their traditions. So, to you it has an evil connotation, which is spreading, but the true meaning of Salaf is quite different and a positive thing, for Muslims who understand what it really refers to.

You equate Sufism with good and Salafis with evil. I'm not surprised you are ignorant of the Arabic and the original meaning of the word. I'm not being arrogant, just trying to set you straight on some things. I have nothing against sufis, but they are not the "perfect" models of a true Muslim. True Muslims don't accept labels, such as Sufi, or Shia, if they understand the religion properly. If they don't understand, then Allah will forgive them for what they did out of ignorance, insha Allah.

Also, I was indeed making some fun of the "little girl" Zaha, who tvee seems smitten with.
That's why I said what I did about her being Libyan American. It was a poke at her, because I know that many Americans and Libyans don't know Islam, and you can read millions of comments on the net by both groups, and believe you me, they are often stupid comments. I didn't say that "all Libyans and all Americans" are stupid, however. And I wouldn't say that. But IF I DID, I really and sincerely apologize here and now. As I say, I was poking fun, or "bugging" the Libyan American who doesn't know her own religion and keeps posting her ignorant comments, which ppl like tvee just love, because it gives the impression that we are all ignorant of Islam - even some honest non-believers defend Islam better than she did.

If Zaha takes offence with my calling her "weak" then she should try getting a backbone, or attempt to learn more about Islam than her non-hiijabi circle of friends (on the internet or otherwise). By lying about Islam she proves that she is weak, either in her religion, or in her personality, or maybe both. This isn't personal - I just call 'em like I see 'em.

I will post more about the discussion which happened, so readers can judge for themselves why I have greatly taken offence with this person's views. It isn't for my own sake that I'm offended, but for the sake of Islam, which is already maligned enough in the media and in public forums, so that we don't need to be inundated with more false information, especially by people who are Muslims and claim to be telling  the truth about Islam when they are doing the opposite of that.  

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Above, in the first paragraph of my 'rebuttal' I mention that I agree with the "common perception" which is to say, I agree with Islam's position on some punishments for certian crimes, leaving aside issues about freedom, and that most ppl's understanding of the punshments meted out to criminals in Islam are often accurate vis a vis, beheading for drugs offences (capital punishment also happens in China for drug related traffficking) especially trafficking narcotics, as well, stoning for adultery, or stoning or throwing from a high place, homosexuals (who are caught in the act) which are two of the most serious and controversial we can easily think of. Rapists are also killed, which is not unusual or greatly despised, considering the nature of the crime. Women are not punished for rape, according to the sharia.

Thursday, June 21, 2012

My tough love

Respect is more important than love; you could call tolerance a part of respect.
I can tolerate almost anyone, but to love someone is not a small deal. We love our families. Love is nothing to take lightly. While love is important, and people can't live without it, respect must also be nurtured. Respect for others, whether similar or different (to oneself) is more important than love. Societies cannot function without 'respect'; families members also must show respect; love binds people closer together, but with loss of respect relationships will fall apart; no matter how much love might be there. This is why Muslims must not make jokes about their friends, or call them names they don't like. Insincerity will undermine the relationship between 'lovers' (or friends).
The 'sufis' speak about love as though it has no boundaries; like ‘free love’, it seems to permeate their lives, but runs ‘hither and thither’ out of control. They also have no sense of who the Muslim is really supposed to be; "serious about religion" is not an area of importance to them, anyone with a drum, dancing to his own rhythm can join, and is ‘Muslim’.
Sufism was a lot about ‘worship’, worshiping through body movements and dancing, or chanting repeatedly. Everyone has seen the whirling of the dervishes. For the ‘religious’ among them, their rituals begin at dawn, or prior to the dawn. (I wonder if they go to ‘salaat’ in congregation at all?). The media portrays them as obsessed with 'dancing' and 'worship', but doesn't speak about their daily life, at all. This image is something which also feeds the wrong portrayal of Muslims in general.
Islam has obligations which have to be met, such as the five times daily prayers; and for men that means in congregation in the ‘masjid’. But work, societal and family demands must also be met and often take precedence.
(If you are Muslim, please pray on time and in congregation (for the men). If you are sincere, Allah will make it easy for you. If you love Allah, you will pray on time and with submission).
Many people do not pray the prayers correctly, or regularly; the prayer is something which can draw you nearer to Allah, but it is also compulsory; if you don’t pray Allah can punish you. Moreover, your life will feel empty without Allah.
Islam is a 'way of life'

But Islam is not only about ‘worship’; the acts of worship; there is more to Islam than prayers and rituals. Islam is a complete way of life, not a mere religion like Christianity is in the typical Western mind.
While many Westerners are now attracted to the rituals in Buddhism, or even the martial arts, which is a form of body worship, Islam compels the non-Muslim to seek out the infinite wisdom and beauty of this greatest of all religions with its “beautiful preaching”. Islam, to them, seems harsh, medieval and barbaric, misogynistic and incomprehensible; that is the fault of the person, who reasons about Islam, not with truth and sincerity, but with incorrect assumptions and wrong beliefs about Islam which have been internalized over a lifetime, in many cases.

Some sufis believe that to love everyone is the way to go; this is similar to what Christian preachers claim, that they love everybody; or that's what they say. But to preach 'love' and not preach Islam, is not sincerity. One could preach tolerance more than love; tolerance is a cornerstone not only of "freedom", but of "respect". Even "love" requires some level of tolerance. but it seems that Christian preachers do not have both in their repertoire when dealing with Muslims. One feels that they can barely stand to look at some of their Muslim fellows (who preach Islam). They often seem agitated, and angry. Body language will often give a person's real thoughts and feelings away.
On facebook, a couple of years ago, I was unfriended by an American Muslim who was very vocal about her feelings against her government; she was what some call a 911truther, among other things. She was very visible, with many friends, and yes, she was even a "Sufi". When I commented that "Tolerance does not imply love", at the end of a conversation with two Christians in my friend's group, well, that was all she (or someone else) needed. I was not a friend; I was not loveable. I had not said anything in bad taste, in fact I had defended the Christian fundamentalist's right to her opinion! Yet, there was someone in that space who found offence with my speech. It was too bad, I thought, and I was disappointed. I picked myself up and dusted myself off, as the expression goes.
The truth about tolerance, is that most people don't know what it means; and they don't know what it is. They don't practice real tolerance. "Tolerance does not imply love".
Muslims are very tolerant, and usually they can show patience in the face of adversity.
For someone sincere to learn the Truth, Allah will guide him to the straight path which is Islam.
DD